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Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by nosioptar »

chriswarbo wrote: post #63
cuuupid wrote: post #22

Serious question: why do people use non-OS browsers? Most devs I know are on Mac. Why not just use Safari? Works in most cases, helps you catch issues earlier on, looks beautiful and is super customizable, still supports UBlock, has vertical tabs, syncs profiles to your focus, is way more memory efficient, etc. I've daily driven Safari for ~3y after Arc got sunset and the only site that gives me issues is Hulu (but n…

I've used Linux exclusively for over 20 years. What is its "OS browser"?

Lynx?

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Post by radicaldreamer »

gib444 wrote: post #87
Cidan wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typing this from Zen browser as we speak, can't suggest it enough.

Without wanting to sound rude: you're talking about browsers – serious business. Most hackers – I feel – need a bit more than 'I strongly suggest it' to even consider switching to a nascent browser :D

The main issue is security. The browser is the most sensitive piece of of software you can run on a machine. It’s susceptible to both supply chain and JS attacks and a huge target for both of them.

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Post by latexr »

jooize wrote: post #59
embedding-shape wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean OS as in "operating system", not "open source", which made me question how you'd suggest Safari and Edge before I realized what was going on. I don't know why using the default browser a OS comes with or not would be better? Who cares? All that matters for me is what features it has and that performance isn't horrible, and if I cannot have vertical tree-style tabs in it and hide the tab-bar, then I personall…

That's usually said as Open Source Software (OSS) or longer acronyms that sound like dental care.

> or longer acronyms that sound like dental care.

What acronym are you thinking of?

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Post by redox99 »

tempest_ wrote: post #53
Night_Thastus wrote: post #25

I know Firefox's share of browser share has dwindled to almost nothing. I know sooner or later, well within my lifetime, it will be gone. But I will keep using it until they pry it from my hands. And if they do, I'll use forks until those break down too. I can't stand Google, or what Chrome has become. No single company should have such unilateral control over the internet and its information.

They are in a tough place. They dont have the advantage of owning the OS (android/chrome and iOS / Safari) nor the advantage of advertising on the google home page like chrome. The "customers" they are courting are security/privacy zealots who constantly want them "just work on the browser" but never seem to have an answer on how to pay for that. I am hoping the advent of LLMs allows more entrants into the space at a…

Firefox has 1.4 billion in reserves and no debt.

If they stop paying tens of millions to their management, they could easily afford paying devs in perpetuity just from investing that money.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by sunaookami »

sirfz wrote: post #35
gardnr wrote: post #7

I remember in 2010 when Chrome made the web so much better for everyone. All the early adopters were singing its praise and encouraging friends and family to use it. Now, I encourage people to use anything but Chrome. Firefox is really great these days.

Firefox was amazing even when Chrome was released

No it really wasn't. It took Firefox multiple years of catching up, releasing multiprocess architecture, 64-bit binaries (!), ... It took until Firefox 58 (2018) until they finally cought up. There was this huge period of nothingness around 2014 when they focussed on other weird stuff like FirefoxOS that everyone saw from miles away that it will flop.

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Post by embedding-shape »

jooize wrote: post #59
embedding-shape wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean OS as in "operating system", not "open source", which made me question how you'd suggest Safari and Edge before I realized what was going on. I don't know why using the default browser a OS comes with or not would be better? Who cares? All that matters for me is what features it has and that performance isn't horrible, and if I cannot have vertical tree-style tabs in it and hide the tab-bar, then I personall…

That's usually said as Open Source Software (OSS) or longer acronyms that sound like dental care.

FLOSS, FOSS, OSS, OS, dear child has many names :)

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Post by wingworks »

varispeed wrote: post #78
Night_Thastus wrote: post #25

I know Firefox's share of browser share has dwindled to almost nothing. I know sooner or later, well within my lifetime, it will be gone. But I will keep using it until they pry it from my hands. And if they do, I'll use forks until those break down too. I can't stand Google, or what Chrome has become. No single company should have such unilateral control over the internet and its information.

I stopped using Firefox when it had massive performance issues (CPU and memory) to the point it was unusable. Chrome in comparison was lightning fast and since then I somehow cannot get myself to use Firefox though I know they likely have fixed those issues long time ago. I have Firefox installed but never open it.

Same. I found Firefox was fast on Windows at the time, but on Mac it was so slow (compared to Chrome), and had weird non-native scrolling for the longest time. As a Mac user it felt like they developed for Windows, and occasionally do some work on the Mac app too.

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Post by hagbard_c »

SXX wrote: post #68
insanitybit wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need to be revisionist. Chrome brought amazing work to the table. The multiprocess, sandboxed system was incredible - it's not to say that Chrome was the first (IE did it earlier) but it was certainly way ahead of Firefox for a long time. Chrome is the reason we have Seccomp V2 on Linux. Chrome made "software is always up to date" the standard. Before Chrome, Blackhole and PoisonIvy absolutely ruined people's comp…

> Firefox took a long time to catch up and their CEO was utterly incompetent, which seriously harmed Mozilla. This is basically whole history of Mozilla and to be honest most of open source projects that dont have BDFL type of leadership.

It is especially true for projects like Firefox which have access to massive funding since these attract the sort of people who consider those funds 'wasted' because they can be used to do so much for 'the common good'. Mitchell Baker - the utterly incompetent CEO - considered Firefox an afterthought because what the world needed was more NGO activism and what she needed was 400% more money for herself [1].

Wikipedia/Wikimedia is another example of a project with massive funding with similar problems even though the latter has a (not so) BDFL.

[1] https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html

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Post by BeetleB »

gardnr wrote: post #7

I remember in 2010 when Chrome made the web so much better for everyone. All the early adopters were singing its praise and encouraging friends and family to use it. Now, I encourage people to use anything but Chrome. Firefox is really great these days.

I remember those days. I still used FF even back then. Stability was an occasional issue with FF, but feature-wise Chrome was always better.
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