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Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by philipallstar »

tempest_ wrote: post #53
Night_Thastus wrote: post #25

I know Firefox's share of browser share has dwindled to almost nothing. I know sooner or later, well within my lifetime, it will be gone. But I will keep using it until they pry it from my hands. And if they do, I'll use forks until those break down too. I can't stand Google, or what Chrome has become. No single company should have such unilateral control over the internet and its information.

They are in a tough place. They dont have the advantage of owning the OS (android/chrome and iOS / Safari) nor the advantage of advertising on the google home page like chrome. The "customers" they are courting are security/privacy zealots who constantly want them "just work on the browser" but never seem to have an answer on how to pay for that. I am hoping the advent of LLMs allows more entrants into the space at a…

> They dont have the advantage of owning the OS (android/chrome and iOS / Safari)

They don't need to. Chrome does extremely well on Windows without "owning the OS".

> nor the advantage of advertising on the google home page like chrome

Very few people go to that page anyway.

> The "customers" they are courting are security/privacy zealots who constantly want them "just work on the browser" but never seem to have an answer on how to pay for that.

They already get half a billion dollars a year from Google for very little in exchange. They just need to spend that money on the website browser and not nonsense.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by xandrius »

sirfz wrote: post #35
gardnr wrote: post #7

I remember in 2010 when Chrome made the web so much better for everyone. All the early adopters were singing its praise and encouraging friends and family to use it. Now, I encourage people to use anything but Chrome. Firefox is really great these days.

Firefox was amazing even when Chrome was released

It was just less of everything than Chrome. First install experience for an average user was much better in terms of speed and snappiness. That was one of the keys to its success.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by GeekyBear »

gardnr wrote: post #7

I remember in 2010 when Chrome made the web so much better for everyone. All the early adopters were singing its praise and encouraging friends and family to use it. Now, I encourage people to use anything but Chrome. Firefox is really great these days.

I remember Google buying Chrome market share by tricking users into installing Chrome when they didn't pay attention while clicking next through the installers for more popular software.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by gib444 »

codingisfreedom wrote: post #82
Night_Thastus wrote: post #25

I know Firefox's share of browser share has dwindled to almost nothing. I know sooner or later, well within my lifetime, it will be gone. But I will keep using it until they pry it from my hands. And if they do, I'll use forks until those break down too. I can't stand Google, or what Chrome has become. No single company should have such unilateral control over the internet and its information.

I really wish Firefox will catch up on the debug/devtools front. Nonetheless, I use FF as much as I can on both my mobile and desktop devices.

> I really wish Firefox will catch up on the debug/devtools front.

Genuine curiosity: what's it lacking?

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by wtallis »

burnte wrote: post #89
wtallis wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome's multiprocess sandboxing wasn't unambiguously good. It carried a steep cost in overhead. Back when Chrome was new, you could run Firefox with a decent selection of add-ons to get security benefits of similar magnitude through different mechanisms. The NoScript extension was at the forefront, providing a lot of functionality way beyond just blocking JavaScript per domain. And Firefox with extensions always had…

> Chrome's multiprocess sandboxing wasn't unambiguously good. It carried a steep cost in overhead. This is true, but this is why we create faster and faster PCs, so our software can do more. The cost was because you were getting new safety features. Want the app to be fast, able to show you lots of tabs with no delay? That takes RAM and CPU. The CPU and RAM are there to be used for features the user wants. It's actua…

The "Just buy a new computer" excuse doesn't actually make the tradeoff no longer a tradeoff. The cost is still real, you're just putting a price tag on it (then ignoring the price, along with any alternative tradeoffs).

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by rglover »

cuuupid wrote: post #22

Serious question: why do people use non-OS browsers? Most devs I know are on Mac. Why not just use Safari? Works in most cases, helps you catch issues earlier on, looks beautiful and is super customizable, still supports UBlock, has vertical tabs, syncs profiles to your focus, is way more memory efficient, etc. I've daily driven Safari for ~3y after Arc got sunset and the only site that gives me issues is Hulu (but n…

The inspector is a nightmare if you're doing web dev (imo; it always felt clunky). If they replaced that with a Chromium-style inspector, I'd probably jump over.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by redorb »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #83
bogzz wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alphabet needs to be broken up. Chrome, Search, Android, Youtube need to be separate companies. It's not the only company that needs this treatment.

> Alphabet needs to be broken up. Chrome, Search, Android need to be separate companies. As well as youtube, and the combination of google drive/docs.

I'd like to nominate, Amazon marketplace, Amazon Ads and AWS to be separate as well please. ;)

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by LtWorf »

hparadiz wrote: post #31
cuuupid wrote: post #22

Serious question: why do people use non-OS browsers? Most devs I know are on Mac. Why not just use Safari? Works in most cases, helps you catch issues earlier on, looks beautiful and is super customizable, still supports UBlock, has vertical tabs, syncs profiles to your focus, is way more memory efficient, etc. I've daily driven Safari for ~3y after Arc got sunset and the only site that gives me issues is Hulu (but n…

Because for enterprise with Google login you literally can't login with anything else except official Chrome.

Just change the user agent.

Re: Google Has Removed MV2 Extensions from the Chrome Web Store, Including UBO

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Post by calmworm »

varispeed wrote: post #78
Night_Thastus wrote: post #25

I know Firefox's share of browser share has dwindled to almost nothing. I know sooner or later, well within my lifetime, it will be gone. But I will keep using it until they pry it from my hands. And if they do, I'll use forks until those break down too. I can't stand Google, or what Chrome has become. No single company should have such unilateral control over the internet and its information.

I stopped using Firefox when it had massive performance issues (CPU and memory) to the point it was unusable. Chrome in comparison was lightning fast and since then I somehow cannot get myself to use Firefox though I know they likely have fixed those issues long time ago. I have Firefox installed but never open it.

Well, open it…
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