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'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Post by riazrizvi »

SoftTalker wrote: post #33
nkrisc wrote: post #6

They mention the toxin comes from the rhododendron flower. I remember camping in North Carolina once and one of the people I was with warned against burning anything from the rhododendron in the area, as supposedly the smoke would give you the runs. I mostly thought they were joking, and I have no idea what specific type of rhododendron would be there (if any), but maybe there’s a glimmer of merit to it? Or maybe the…

You also don't want to burn poison ivy because the oil (urushiol) is not something you want in your lungs if you are reactive to it.

Florida's manchineel tree (with the tiny apples) is the OG wood you don't burn because it blinds you.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Supermancho wrote: post #12
Bang2Bay wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name a few. I want to be an informed person.

* Sibutramine (weight loss medication) * Suldenafil or tadalafil (ED medication) * SARMS (steroids in general) * Caffeine powder (another game of guess the dosage)

> * Caffeine powder (another game of guess the dosage)

I found a study saying "the caffeine content in tested dietary supplements is 4–35% higher than the declared amount in most cases" which doesn't seem very dangerous.

You can overdose on caffeine in other ways, of course.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Post by coldtea »

pigbearpig wrote: post #32
phoronixrly wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What makes you say it's LLM? > Every article you read here is written by university scholars and researchers with deep expertise in their subjects, sharing their knowledge in their own words. We don’t oversimplify complicated issues, but we do explain and clarify. We believe bringing the voices of experts into the public discourse is good for democracy.

Such assurances mean almost nothing these days. But to be frank this specific article doesn't seem particularly AI to me.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Post by what_hn »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #26

> The problem is that the gap between a medicinal dose and a toxic dose is very small What's this claim based on? I don't think it's the rat study linked nearby. I looked through it and they didn't really compare doses. If it's a linear effect on dropping blood pressure, that seems like an overblown way to talk about it. If it's something else, I'd love to hear more.

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Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

riazrizvi wrote: post #41
SoftTalker wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You also don't want to burn poison ivy because the oil (urushiol) is not something you want in your lungs if you are reactive to it.

Florida's manchineel tree (with the tiny apples) is the OG wood you don't burn because it blinds you.

Or oleander [1], which people occasionally poison themselves with by burning its wood.

1: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbio...

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Post by nkrisc »

john_strinlai wrote: post #18
nkrisc wrote: post #6

They mention the toxin comes from the rhododendron flower. I remember camping in North Carolina once and one of the people I was with warned against burning anything from the rhododendron in the area, as supposedly the smoke would give you the runs. I mostly thought they were joking, and I have no idea what specific type of rhododendron would be there (if any), but maybe there’s a glimmer of merit to it? Or maybe the…

i believe ingestion is the primary concern, but the smoke can also lead to symptoms, yes.

That makes sense. We definitely weren’t going to eat random plants, but we could have easily accidentally grabbed some for firewood or kindling.

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Post by edelbitter »

nozzlegear wrote: post #9
meindnoch wrote: post #5

A lot of things sold online can stop your heart.

A reasonable person wouldn't expect honey to stop their heart though.

Then again, many reasonable people would avoid, rather than specifically seek to buy raw honey from India (or the vicinity).

Re: 'Mad honey' that can stop your heart is being sold online

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Post by trelane »

pigbearpig wrote: post #32
phoronixrly wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What makes you say it's LLM? > Every article you read here is written by university scholars and researchers with deep expertise in their subjects, sharing their knowledge in their own words. We don’t oversimplify complicated issues, but we do explain and clarify. We believe bringing the voices of experts into the public discourse is good for democracy.

Dunno about AI, but I was turned away by the sheer amount of ad spam on the site
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