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U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by cogogo »

gorbachev wrote: post #780
cogogo wrote: post #635

It is only a matter of time before this administration does this to green card applications and renewals too. A permanent green card is not permanent. It needs to be renewed every 10 years. I am also worried about policies eventually directed at naturalized citizens. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

This is incorrect. The physical card itself expires every 10 years, but your status as a permanent resident doesn't. That can only be revoked by a legal process. Obviously if you do not renew the green card itself, you are going to face practical issues, because you have no easy way to prove your permanent resident status. So things like employment verification because of new employment and entering the country from…

It is pretty much the same. You are legally required to have the card with you at all times. The practical issues you refer to are non-trivial. Inability to travel is a non-starter for many. Think ICE will be friendly? They repeatedly show they do not care about legal technicalities.

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Post by hardbass »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #306
diego_moita wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony: many native Americans believe that all of your own immigrant ancestors should never be allowed to enter the US. If you really believe what you wrote then I'd suggest to "GetThemOut*" your own immigrant heritage out of the country. * as your trolling username says

There is no contradiction here. Different groups have different interests. The natives rightly attempted to fight off the Europeans. They lost. It does not follow that the Europeans here now should just let in whoever wants to come in, to the point that the Europeans themselves are outnumbered. If the Europeans fight and the newcomers win, so be it. But why should the Europeans lay down and let it happen? Especially…

People peacefully moving in and settling in a country is GENOCIDAL INVASION HOLY SHIT!!!

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Post by newfriend »

ura_yukimitsu wrote: post #961
xyzelement wrote: post #922

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// Wouldn't it make more sense to make the legal process shorter and less unnecessarily bureaucratic so that people are less likely to come in the country undocumented? Lowering the bar until the kinds of people who are happy to break the law to come here are now legal is not the goal. Immigration policy changes all the time. H1B was not a thing until the 90s. The country has the right to evaluate what it needs at a…

Why do people "break the law" to come to the US, and how do their coming affect you negatively? And again, H1-B is not an immigrant visa, I don't see why you're talking about it here.

> Why do people "break the law" to come to the US

They are economic migrants without the means or desire to immigrate legally.

> how do their coming affect you negatively?

They depress blue-collar wages for my fellow Americans. They increase competition for housing. They increase the burden on services like medical and education. I could go on and on...

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Post by newfriend »

TheDong wrote: post #596
doom2 wrote: post #374

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> we Americans We can also take a more critical look at the definition of what being American is. The 20th century, especially pre-1920, was rife with illegal immigration. Why should the descendants of those who skipped the line, who didn't come in "the right way", be able to now call themselves American and reap the unearned benefits of citizenship? They've taken and continue to take jobs from Americans who need the…

While we're at it, I guess we should kick out all the descendants of Europeans, etc, and the only people who should be able to get jobs and count as true citizens are the direct descendants of the Native Americans. What an offensive comment. You earn the benefits of citizenship by paying taxes, and ideally participating in your community (though _many_ americans also just disappear into their houses and watch tv / ti…

Native Americans didn't form the United States of America.

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Post by HeavenFox »

maxgashkov wrote: post #236
HeavenFox wrote: post #203

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You are talking about change (or extension) of status, not visa. US is unique in that the visa sticker and your right to remain in the country (status) are two different things. The only purpose of the visa sticker is to allow you to travel to a U.S. port of entry, where you apply for admission, and therefore legal status. You can have legal status in the U.S. while the visa sticker has expired, and your status can b…

It's not unique: Japanese system is exactly as you described.

Is it? If I understand it correctly, in Japan, if you have a valid residence card, you can use that to enter the country. That is not true for the US (if you consider I-94 the US equivalent of residence card)

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Post by HeavenFox »

a_bonobo wrote: post #245
maxgashkov wrote: post #236

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It's not unique: Japanese system is exactly as you described.

Australia too - however, to get a renewal all you need is an online connection and a credit card, the renewal (at least for me!) goes through automatically. (Notwithstanding that Australia just increased the PR-renewal cost from ~400-500 to ~1400-1500 AUD)

Based on my understanding of Australian PR, what you are renewing is not your visa but the travel facility.

For non-PR, I don't think Australia distinguishes visa and status like US (i.e. you can't have valid status while your visa expired)

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Post by 1718627440 »

hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

I think they would need to send your stuff out at least. Otherwise it would be robbery.

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Post by 1718627440 »

coderenegade wrote: post #392
tptacek wrote: post #358

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Lots of countries have temporary worker status. The requirement to leave the country to re-up it appears to be a distinctively American thing.

It's definitely not. I know Japan and Korea had a similar process when I was living there, and I was under the impression that most places operate this way. Your visa grants you right to temporarily stay in the country, and if you don't have a visa you have no right to be there. Sometimes there's a bridging visa to cover the gap, but a country isn't under any obligation to provide one.

But if you applied already, it's currently unknown whether you have a valid visa or not.

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Post by aveao »

lazide wrote: post #905
aveao wrote: post #867

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Not sure when you lived here but Germany does not require you to leave the country to renew the document that lets you re-enter¹, same as rest of Schengen. Renewal frequency is also 4 years for "EU Blue Card" holders (STEM workers). ¹: residence permit card in case of schengen, visa in case of "non-immigrants" in US.

Ah, this was pre-schengen. Nice to see it got nicer!

It improved a few times during my years here, it's very refreshing compared to what I've seen of the US, where the system is almost as clunky as it was in the 90s.
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