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Re: Konrad Zuse Museum shutting down due to lack of funding

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I've seen some of his machines in Technology Museum in Berlin. The first iteration was mechanical done with cleverly cut out metal plates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z1_(computer)

Playlist showcasing the current restoration work: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtpOUadaBh31n6Pdscwhwopmh...

Re: Konrad Zuse Museum shutting down due to lack of funding

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For every bit of history there is 'the danger period', when it is still recent enough that most people don't consider it special but old enough that special effort needs to be made to preserve it. Random chance as much as anything else determines what eventually makes it to the status of 'precious antique'. I hope they find a way to mothball it until society is more appreciative, I think it is a unique collection and worth preserving.

Re: Konrad Zuse Museum shutting down due to lack of funding

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Zuse is probably the most under-appreciated thinker of the 20th century. Everybody's heard of Claude Shannon, von Neumann, Feynman, and all the rest of 'em, but Zuse's enormous contributions have received rather little attention. To summarize a couple of the highlights: In 1936 Germany, Konrad Zuse began developing the Z1, a mechanical calculating machine programmed via perforated 35mm film. By 1937, he had broadened…

You missed some important points that explain why he's not celebrated.

His efforts received enormous amounts of funding from the Nazis.

Much of his specialized 'computers' were explicitly for the war effort, including planes.

He was a big fan of utilizing computing for racial and genealogy research. The Nazis had plans drawn out to murder orders of magnitude more people based on this sort of research had they won (Generalplan Ost).

It was not like he was forced at gunpoint to participate, he was all in for the funding. Much like Von Braun, but did not have the luck to be paperclipped.

Re: Konrad Zuse Museum shutting down due to lack of funding

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post #15

Zuse is probably the most under-appreciated thinker of the 20th century. Everybody's heard of Claude Shannon, von Neumann, Feynman, and all the rest of 'em, but Zuse's enormous contributions have received rather little attention. To summarize a couple of the highlights: In 1936 Germany, Konrad Zuse began developing the Z1, a mechanical calculating machine programmed via perforated 35mm film. By 1937, he had broadened…

You missed some important points that explain why he's not celebrated. His efforts received enormous amounts of funding from the Nazis. Much of his specialized 'computers' were explicitly for the war effort, including planes. He was a big fan of utilizing computing for racial and genealogy research. The Nazis had plans drawn out to murder orders of magnitude more people based on this sort of research had they won (Ge…

Same can also be said of IBMs computers at the time and the US efforts to build computers.

Re: Konrad Zuse Museum shutting down due to lack of funding

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You missed some important points that explain why he's not celebrated. His efforts received enormous amounts of funding from the Nazis. Much of his specialized 'computers' were explicitly for the war effort, including planes. He was a big fan of utilizing computing for racial and genealogy research. The Nazis had plans drawn out to murder orders of magnitude more people based on this sort of research had they won (Ge…

Same can also be said of IBMs computers at the time and the US efforts to build computers.

Sure, winners writing the history is a tale as old as time.

Re: Konrad Zuse Museum shutting down due to lack of funding

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post #15

Zuse is probably the most under-appreciated thinker of the 20th century. Everybody's heard of Claude Shannon, von Neumann, Feynman, and all the rest of 'em, but Zuse's enormous contributions have received rather little attention. To summarize a couple of the highlights: In 1936 Germany, Konrad Zuse began developing the Z1, a mechanical calculating machine programmed via perforated 35mm film. By 1937, he had broadened…

You missed some important points that explain why he's not celebrated. His efforts received enormous amounts of funding from the Nazis. Much of his specialized 'computers' were explicitly for the war effort, including planes. He was a big fan of utilizing computing for racial and genealogy research. The Nazis had plans drawn out to murder orders of magnitude more people based on this sort of research had they won (Ge…

Initially received funding, later in the war they turned it off as "not war worthy"

You might be surprised how many UK and US scientists of that time supported eugenics, see for example https://nautil.us/how-eugenics-shaped-statistics-238014

and as for computers and atrocities, see IBM's history from the time or perhaps some more recent tech companies.

Few of us are saints.

Re: Konrad Zuse Museum shutting down due to lack of funding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are also no physical observations that contradict the notion of God. The problem is that no such observations are even possible, or at least no test they could be put to that could disprove the theory.

The notion of god leads immediately to paradoxes and logical contradictions when thinking it through a little bit. It's fine if people have certain believes but let's not put religion on the same level as physics. No such paradoxes exist with the notion of a deterministic computable universe. I concur with the OP when they said Zuse is being waaay underappreciated. He is one of the fathers of the modern computational…

> to this day, there are no physical observations which contradict Zuse's notion, as he wrote it, of a computable universe.

This was the claim, and OP has a point, which you are misinterpreting as religion vs physics.

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