Allegedly hackers gained access to data about true DSL speeds in Berlin's households, waiting times for Anmeldung , and scandalous ratio of rental deposit returns from landlords. In short Berlin is cooked but it also always has been.
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Re: Berlin is being blackmailed by hackers
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Interesting how all those flagged comments contribute nothing (as does yours), are gleeful in an antisocial way about leaked data, and the accounts posting them are all less than a month old (including yours).
Who is being anti-social? Those that gleefully damning Berlin for its incompetence or those that caused the incompetence? The politicians who go play tennis while Berlin burns?[0] Politics in Germany and Berlin specifically has been extremely anti-social. From referendums[1] that get ignored to a decades old housing problem from which investors are the only benefactors. To positive social movements such as "zu Versch…
You are being aggressively antisocial and nihilistic and crowing over the misfortune befalling thousands.
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Neither the media nor politicians are interested in hyping up the issue right before the state election on Sep 20. So it's probably just what you suggested: pretending that nothing happened.
Anecdotally from another EU country, the politicians simply insolently ignore the data leaks. Victims will be punished though with a wave of "beware of scammers" communication, increasingly invasive identification, and institutional erosion of their privacy.
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Who is being anti-social? Those that gleefully damning Berlin for its incompetence or those that caused the incompetence? The politicians who go play tennis while Berlin burns?[0] Politics in Germany and Berlin specifically has been extremely anti-social. From referendums[1] that get ignored to a decades old housing problem from which investors are the only benefactors. To positive social movements such as "zu Versch…
Everything you say is true but obviously I am talking about the people putting their Schadenfreude on display. Do you think Berliners are happy that the referendums they voted for are getting ignored? The current mayors party has the lowest approval ratings ever. The current chancellor of the same party is the most hated in German history. And then come some big-shots here talking about how it's well-deserved that a…
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Who is being anti-social? Those that gleefully damning Berlin for its incompetence or those that caused the incompetence? The politicians who go play tennis while Berlin burns?[0] Politics in Germany and Berlin specifically has been extremely anti-social. From referendums[1] that get ignored to a decades old housing problem from which investors are the only benefactors. To positive social movements such as "zu Versch…
These four stories are all incredibly tepid nothing anecdotes. Try any random city in the world You are being aggressively antisocial and nihilistic and crowing over the misfortune befalling thousands.
I neither crow nor care what happens to thousands of people, why should I. I'm merely pointing out that politicians don't have an automatic right to be anti-social just because they have the power.
And if someone accuses someone else of being anti-social, then I would also like to point out that they aren't the only ones being anti-social. It's a philosophical point of view, not a nihilistic of one.
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Who is being anti-social? Those that gleefully damning Berlin for its incompetence or those that caused the incompetence? The politicians who go play tennis while Berlin burns?[0] Politics in Germany and Berlin specifically has been extremely anti-social. From referendums[1] that get ignored to a decades old housing problem from which investors are the only benefactors. To positive social movements such as "zu Versch…
Everything you say is true but obviously I am talking about the people putting their Schadenfreude on display. Do you think Berliners are happy that the referendums they voted for are getting ignored? The current mayors party has the lowest approval ratings ever. The current chancellor of the same party is the most hated in German history. And then come some big-shots here talking about how it's well-deserved that a…
Germany is still a very much top-down society where people get talked down to and only those with the right connections (i.e. financial or educational or heritage) get taken seriously.
Spend time in any english speaking place and you still - might - notice a difference how the media interacts with those in power and more importantly, how the media interacts with their audience. German media very much talks down to its audience and up to those in power.
P.S. What I learnt today is that the head of the BSI is Claudia Plattner and the founder of SAP is Hasso Plattner - Coincidence? Relation? ~~What a surprise! Again is this a sign that security is taken seriously or that connections count?~~ No relation, mea culpa.
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These four stories are all incredibly tepid nothing anecdotes. Try any random city in the world You are being aggressively antisocial and nihilistic and crowing over the misfortune befalling thousands.
And that's your opinion and that opinion counts in whose reality? Certainly not mine. I see neither facts nor references in what you say. So it's definitely a personal PoV that you take and you may do that. Just don't force it onto me. I neither crow nor care what happens to thousands of people, why should I. I'm merely pointing out that politicians don't have an automatic right to be anti-social just because they ha…
> Who is being anti-social?
then you continue:
> I neither crow nor care what happens to thousands of people, why should I.
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Everything you say is true but obviously I am talking about the people putting their Schadenfreude on display. Do you think Berliners are happy that the referendums they voted for are getting ignored? The current mayors party has the lowest approval ratings ever. The current chancellor of the same party is the most hated in German history. And then come some big-shots here talking about how it's well-deserved that a…
Perhaps german culture is to blame, one of "Schadenfreude" and of "Verbieten" and of "Authority knows best" and no one seriously challenging those in "Authority". Germany is still a very much top-down society where people get talked down to and only those with the right connections (i.e. financial or educational or heritage) get taken seriously. Spend time in any english speaking place and you still - might - notice…
> Coincidence? Relation?
https://rp-online.de/politik/deutschland/claudia-plattner-di...
Re: Berlin is being blackmailed by hackers
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Everything you say is true but obviously I am talking about the people putting their Schadenfreude on display. Do you think Berliners are happy that the referendums they voted for are getting ignored? The current mayors party has the lowest approval ratings ever. The current chancellor of the same party is the most hated in German history. And then come some big-shots here talking about how it's well-deserved that a…
Berliners know how to create change, as seen by history. They're currently not. Can we infer they don't want change?