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European Commission Revives Push for Encryption Backdoors in ProtectEU Strategy

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Re: European Commission Revives Push for Encryption Backdoors in ProtectEU Strategy

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The dictators part is false, the EU is not a structure you can easily dictate. But this encryption backdoor thing is somebody's pet project and extremely alarming. The UK has a similar bend they've already put in place with IPA and TCNs. The US is way gone on decrypted stored data and metadata, but not on encryption backdoors yet, though legislators have tried.

Can you please explain to me why you think this is the case? Can parliament make law or not? Why is the commission the only body that can make law? Its staffed with people that appear to serve special interests. I saw this during the Stop Killing Games Where the EU commission meet with the game industry privately in EU before the decision on the Stop Destroying Video games Initiative. If there is no way to challenge…

The commission is the only body able to initiate legislature, but it cannot pass this legislature without assent from the European Parliament and/or Council of the European Union.

The EU has plenty of deficiencies, but calling it a dictatorship is wildly inaccurate.

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>Especially if member States doesn't increase budgets for handling said immigrants You don't need more budget for migrants, but less budgets for migrants, removing the welfare incentive so they stop coming. Just be Like Singapore. They don't have a migration problem. It is really that simple. Stop funding NGOs that treat your welfare state like a charity for the entire planet to come and feast one. This is not part o…

Singapore is basically a family run dictatorship city state - hardly any of what they do could or should be replicated elsewhere.

They have a functioning society. And quite a high GDP.

You know, not all dictatorships are inherently bad. Look at the Gulf states: they have a high number of immigrants, but at the same time they don't have Germany's or France's problems. You do something there, you're jailed and after you finish your sentence you're on the first plane out. No drama, no years long court fights etc.

Re: European Commission Revives Push for Encryption Backdoors in ProtectEU Strategy

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> But that could have been prevented if the EU did not have an open-doors migration policy to start with. And to have listened to the people on other issues too. I believe there are more nuances to this, then simply blaming it on immigration policies. There are a lot of variables in place for why far right movements are and have been on the rise in the EU. And I certainly believe the issues could've been handled bett…

I don't think Spain or Sweden are very responsible for most of the Middle Eastern woes. If anything, blame the US.

They are to blame because they allow people to cross their borders illegally. And in Spain's case, they're looking at giving them citizenship. And then they complain about crime.

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The United States is religious against kings and genuinely thinks they have a holy mission of humans right, freedom, democracy, and liberalism. Obviously this doesn't always happen, but there's only an extremely small minority that think otherwise. Maybe put me in the otherwise camp. Disappointed democracy produced Trump. Maybe we need a technocracy to defend the world from China.

I don’t think the average American voter “genuinely” thinks that they’re on a Blues Brothers-style mission from god to deliver liberalism and freedom to the world. I would be surprised if that’s even a minority view among voters.

As a country, we sure do think it is our mission/duty from god to "save the world from communism" (or whatever it gets called today). I think one movie that shows this is High Noon. That 70+ year old movie shows that it is "not all Americans, but always an American".

Re: European Commission Revives Push for Encryption Backdoors in ProtectEU Strategy

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Not that they don't disregard some of my opinions too, but I am quite worried about the opinions of some of the other citizens. The worst thing might be that it is kind (or close to) a best possible average (can't assess honestly). When I talk with many (mostly opinionated) people, at various ends of various positions (left, right, ecology, industry, security, etc.) I can't imagine any leadership that would make a si…

Or maybe it's impossible to satisfy desires of such culturally diverse populace as EU citizens. Which makes current model, and federated model impossible and/or prone to crumbling. Problems of Germany are different than one Spain faces, and France, and Poland etc.

Which why originally much more was decided by consensus and if there is no consensus then simply every country can do their own way. I feel like a lot of things actually reached a local optimum in the 90s in our approach to improve things, we left that.

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Chat Control 1.0 is not at all voluntary for those controlled by it. For example: there is no setting in Facebook Messenger where users can enable or disable Chat Control. This is like saying that private prisons are voluntary because the corporations that run them were not forced into the market.

There's no setting in Facebook where I can tell Meta to bake me a cake either. But I'm still allowed to buy cakes.

That would be more like there being no setting to tell Meta to stop sending you cakes, but them continuing to send cakes. Except they take something from you, instead of giving.

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That's a bit of a touchy subject that exposes the fact that the EU has repurposed a system for designing industry standards (not laws) and has a shaky legal foundation. To some extent countries are bound by EU law, but what this means depends on the institutions and legal structure within that country. Although the EU tends to claim they have final say, but how can someone interpreting national law agree with that if…

Yeah this sounds like another scam. I big one. We should really find another way to govern societies.

The EU is not a government. It's a standard body for countries and their governments.

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Europe has learned the lesson that extremists are bad, but it has not learned the lesson that the tools shouldn't exist.

There will always be extremists on both sides of the political spectrum. The problem is quite simple: people swing more to one side or another if their voices are not heard. The current boogeyman is the growth of the far-right in Europe. But that could have been prevented if the EU did not have an open-doors migration policy to start with. And to have listened to the people on other issues too.

Ah yes immigration is the issue. Not almost every right politician colluding with either Kremlin, Israel or both

Re: European Commission Revives Push for Encryption Backdoors in ProtectEU Strategy

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To be honest immigration happened forever because people look for a better place to live. The able, hard working and entrepreneurial ones bring a lot to the countries they immigrate to. So, I do not see immigration as "a problem". Additionally Europe's natality is not great, it needs people working. So many enterprises in Europe are happy with that. Why is immigration presented as a problem? Because it is easy, does…

> To be honest immigration happened forever because people look for a better place to live. The able, hard working and entrepreneurial ones bring a lot to the countries they immigrate to. So, I do not see immigration as "a problem". You allow onky the highly skilled ones who cannot reach their potential from where they come from. > Additionally Europe's natality is not great, it needs people working. So many enterpri…

Interestingly, crimes done by migrants are covered 10x more than ones done by citizens.
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