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I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Re: I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Post by odyssey7 »

codingdave wrote: post #8

The author doesn't really claim it was a hack, just that it is a possibility. But they are charging down the path of the potential hack before asking the more obvious question: How many refrigerators exist in the military at all? And of those, how many are having problems? Because a half dozen a day sounds plausible as standard maintenance issues, as the author acknowledges. If it were a hack, I'd expect something li…

Obvious sabotage would be addressed promptly. Subtle sabotage could persist as a minor torment indefinitely.

Re: I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Post by odyssey7 »

fzeroracer wrote: post #4

There's a far simpler explanation than some outside actor (either state sponsored or otherwise) deciding that the best thing they can do is to muck around with freezers. We know there's been a severe rot of operational capabilities in the military thanks for Hegseths purges and general stupidity. It's entirely possible and quite likely that over the course of his various drunken binges he decided to get rid of people…

This is exactly the sort of thing that a saboteur would want its targets to think.

“If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them.” —Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Re: I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Post by fzeroracer »

odyssey7 wrote: post #13
fzeroracer wrote: post #4

There's a far simpler explanation than some outside actor (either state sponsored or otherwise) deciding that the best thing they can do is to muck around with freezers. We know there's been a severe rot of operational capabilities in the military thanks for Hegseths purges and general stupidity. It's entirely possible and quite likely that over the course of his various drunken binges he decided to get rid of people…

This is exactly the sort of thing that a saboteur would want its targets to think. “If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them.” —Sun Tzu, The Art of War

That's the exact sort of thing the military would want us to think, because 'we were hacked by another nation' sounds a lot better than 'we fired the people responsible for food logistics'. You're not going to be able to divine the real reason this way.

Re: I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Post by wlesieutre »

boesboes wrote: post #5

Welcome to the internet of shitty unsupported and insecure crap! Are we really this dumb as a society?

As the saying goes, the S in IoT stands for security

Not exactly strong evidence presented here, but it wouldn't be a surprise either

Re: I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Post by odyssey7 »

fzeroracer wrote: post #14
odyssey7 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly the sort of thing that a saboteur would want its targets to think. “If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them.” —Sun Tzu, The Art of War

That's the exact sort of thing the military would want us to think, because 'we were hacked by another nation' sounds a lot better than 'we fired the people responsible for food logistics'. You're not going to be able to divine the real reason this way.

There would be far better excuses here than saying “we’re incompetent.”

Re: I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Post by kjs3 »

fzeroracer wrote: post #4

There's a far simpler explanation than some outside actor (either state sponsored or otherwise) deciding that the best thing they can do is to muck around with freezers. We know there's been a severe rot of operational capabilities in the military thanks for Hegseths purges and general stupidity. It's entirely possible and quite likely that over the course of his various drunken binges he decided to get rid of people…

To be fair, if you want to mess with your adversaries troop morale, screwing up dinner is pretty effective.

Re: I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Post by tialaramex »

voidUpdate wrote: post #9
boesboes wrote: post #5

Welcome to the internet of shitty unsupported and insecure crap! Are we really this dumb as a society?

Yes

And at some point in hindsight it will be obvious what fractions of problems were

A. This technology is inherently crap, that's our fault

B. A bored teenager broke it. Bored teenagers are a thing, it literally doesn't matter which country they are in, stop building things bored teenagers will blow up, this is also inherently our fault

C. Foreign Adversaries

It suits both mass media audience figures and a narrative of wily enemies rather than incompetence to pin everything on C and it seems eminently possible that a country with as many enemies as the US would attract this sometimes, but the reality is that both A and B are much more likely despite being embarrassing.

Re: I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked

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Post by ckdarby »

codingdave wrote: post #8

The author doesn't really claim it was a hack, just that it is a possibility. But they are charging down the path of the potential hack before asking the more obvious question: How many refrigerators exist in the military at all? And of those, how many are having problems? Because a half dozen a day sounds plausible as standard maintenance issues, as the author acknowledges. If it were a hack, I'd expect something li…

The article has a post that says this happened across 14 bases at the same time.
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