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Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by schmorptron »

Within the general theme of token subsidies slowing down, this seems like the logical step. In my mind the timeline goes something like this product wise:

- Pepole figure out that having a general purpose not-just-coding agent actually works with newer models, openclaw and its buddies spawn

- How do you get this to the general consumer? Offer integration with services even stronger than before and give the chat a cloud vm with persistent storage as one path, claude computer use as the other.

- - Perplexity computer releases, and they slowly start nudging users from plan-included chat usage to more stongly limit using or even extra credit usage billed computer tasks

- - chatgpt and other main labs do the same with work, but they can afford to subsidize it a bit more still by just having it use codex quota

We'll see where it goes from here, but i do see the general trend of pushing people towards strongly billed features without explicitly taking away the previous chat experience because that'd make them look bad

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by zombot »

tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

> draft a reply to this email

If a botted reply is OK, why do they email you instead of the bot?

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by lenikirilov »

cedws wrote: post #79
tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

Are you not worried giving it full control of your computer? I would be terrified. If I’ve got my eyes on it, I can at least stop it before it does something stupid.

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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by as1297kj »

tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

They are not sleeping. They are rejecting a double trojan horse that stores your data in the cloud and exfiltrates it to an LLM.

I have no words seeing someone on a software engineering site recommend using it for personal data.

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by testofcapabilit »

simonw wrote: post #83
tomlockwood wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post sounds like an advertisement.

"It is an extraordinarily confusing and very powerful product." "I find [OpenAI's explanation] almost entirely useless" "An open question for me right now is how safe all of this stuff is." "Figuring this all out took way more work than it should have."

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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by EagleEdge »

Does anyone select Codex from the dropdown on the top left corner of ChatGPT desktop app for coding tasks explicitly? Or just use ChatGPT Work for everything from coding to non-coding work? That is the part that really confuses me.

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by KeplerBoy »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #70
faangguyindia wrote: post #26

ChatGPT work usage counts toward Codex entitlement Some people have an agent-driven browser that controls the ChatGPT web UI and exposes it as a chat view in a custom harness or pi for normal chats (with image generation, file input capability).

What is the point of that? Why is that better than using the harness directly?

different billing quotas. Although that may of course change at any moment.

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by mi_lk »

tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

Is it not significantly more token hungry at the same time?

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by grosswait »

matsemann wrote: post #103
simonw wrote: post #23

I just updated the article to link to this site: https://codex-tool-reference.simonw.chatgpt.site/ Which I created using this prompt in a fresh Work session: > Build a site that lists every one of your tools - nearly grouped into categories - and for each one explain what it does. Try to exactly duplicate arguments and tool descriptions where possible. Design aesthetic should be technical docs, minimal flare UPDATE:…

Honest question: why would I ever visit that site? It's just an insane amount of text. Not written or curated by you. Any need for me for this data would be fulfilled by just asking the agent myself, and with pointed questions it could float better what I need than this vomit of data?

Because some people don’t have their own ChatGPT subscription to plug such a query into?
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