"Doxxing is bad except when it's against people I dislike"?
If people don't want CCTV, campaign to make it illegal.
Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
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Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#42The article is very one sided, implying without evidence that Flock is for recreational tracking of individuals. With San Francisco SFPD’s ALPR cameras at least, this would be an abuse of the cameras according to the policy linked from https://transparency.flocksafety.com/san-francisco-ca-pd . Here are the Authorized purposes: Locate stolen, wanted, and or other vehicles that are the subject of investigation To appre…
> The article is very one sided
Of course it is. If we want a Flock press release we can just read one.
Plenty of things have lots of great upsides, and it’s the downsides that stop wider adoption and cause regulation and limits.
Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The unwarranted mass surveillance and dragnet part. We have a thing called the fourth Constitutional amendment here in the United States. We also have the first amendment, which the Supreme Court has ruled in the past must not be subject to a "chilling effect". The Flock camera system, and any dragnet surveillance system, is a direct chilling effect to the rights to freedom of speech, freedom from religious persecuti…
You carry a phone with you broadcasting constantly. Not sure why police just don’t buy your location data from data brokers. Maybe they do…
> You carry a phone with you broadcasting constantly.
You know them personally?
I can't speak for them but I, for one, don't.
Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#44The article is very one sided, implying without evidence that Flock is for recreational tracking of individuals. With San Francisco SFPD’s ALPR cameras at least, this would be an abuse of the cameras according to the policy linked from https://transparency.flocksafety.com/san-francisco-ca-pd . Here are the Authorized purposes: Locate stolen, wanted, and or other vehicles that are the subject of investigation To appre…
Not on the list, but documented: * Live monitoring of teenagers in gyms for sales purposes, * Multiple counts of stalking by LEOs, * Instances of unsecured access, * Multiple erroneous plate matching directly leading to "swatting" of women and children on day to day shopping trips.
The Dunwoody MJCC monitoring seems the worst incident in that Flock never issued a postmortem on how the terms of the sharing were violated.
Abuses in violation of policy are a problem like in any organization that can be reduced through auditing, discipline, etc. And it seems that the ones that have been caught (Jarmarus Brown of Orange City, FL; Asad Zahir of Shively, KY; Emily Pacheco of New Bedford, MA) have been disciplined and/or charged.
Insufficient security of devices is a problem but does not have to do with my comment about the intended uses.
Officers have to be trained about OCR errors, just like we have to know when to trust an LLM. The SFPD policy I linked says officers shall “Visually verify the alphanumeric characters on the plate” before stopping a car identified by ALPR. And like LLM hallucinations OCR errors will go down over time.
Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
My employer is a small business that has an e-commerce website that is attacked by fraudsters trying to validate stolen credit cards or obtain customer information hundreds of times per day. Operations like CloudFlare are the only way to foil these actors. Just trusting you is not a viable strategy.
The people who downvote could propose how to solve the fraudster problem instead of shooting the messenger.
"We removed the wheelchair ramp because it was used by rodents to enter our building."
"Don't shoot the messenger!"
Security can't be a reason for discrimination.
Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#46The irony is over the top with this guy. He says that Americans need to "compromise" on their privacy, but then absolutely loses it when the Panopticon is turned on him.
Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, I am practicing understanding for the tyranny around me everyday when I wake up, as a meditation exercise. Answers like yours kill the little remaining faith I have in people. This same argument has been used to defend sloppily implemented CAPTCHAS destroying accessibility since what, 20 years.
My employer is a small business that has an e-commerce website that is attacked by fraudsters trying to validate stolen credit cards or obtain customer information hundreds of times per day. Operations like CloudFlare are the only way to foil these actors. Just trusting you is not a viable strategy.
I had this problem too for all my clients e-commerce websites, then solved it 3 years ago with very little code changes.
Happy to share it with you. Using small businesses for credit card testing is one of the most evil things on the Internet, so anything to stop it is worth it.
Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#48"Doxxing is bad except when it's against people I dislike"? If people don't want CCTV, campaign to make it illegal.
Flock is not CCTV though. There's nothing 'closed circuit' about it at all, and that's the problem.
Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#49Re: Flock Safety's controversial CEO just got a taste of his own medicine
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
The unwarranted mass surveillance and dragnet part. We have a thing called the fourth Constitutional amendment here in the United States. We also have the first amendment, which the Supreme Court has ruled in the past must not be subject to a "chilling effect". The Flock camera system, and any dragnet surveillance system, is a direct chilling effect to the rights to freedom of speech, freedom from religious persecuti…
You carry a phone with you broadcasting constantly. Not sure why police just don’t buy your location data from data brokers. Maybe they do…
Cast off your demoralization and join the resistance.