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It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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Do you think it took him a few years to install the cameras?

My friend said this about diy “If I say I’ll do something I’ll do it. There’s no need to remind me every six months”

there's a million stickers, calenders, whatever in German saying this about men :P

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=mädels+wenn+ein+mann+sagt+e...

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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I can't imagine how much energy is wasted on what should be, a trivial thing that might run on a 9v battery for 10 years, or, like I had in a house I owned, a door bell that uses no battery at all...just a rope and a bell.

Maybe I'm just too primitive but I let dogs handle it. I homestead in a remote Indian village and many stray dogs I look after instinctively take care of my property. There are false positives sometimes but that's okay. I like it when they alert me for potential small intrusions around my house, like snakes, monitor lizards etc.

> many stray dogs I look after instinctively take care of my property

Their ancient wolf-dog ancestors howl with approval. That's why we domesticated them after all.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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I am super sensitive to over engineering. For my doorbell I wanted something that lets me play a custom bell sound. You would be surprised that 99% of the solutions out there are complete over engineered stacks that depend on wifi devices, Internet access, connecting to various cloud services... So I built my own: a basic wireless button sends a radio 433 MHz signal, and my receiver is plugged inside the house and tr…

> You would be surprised that 99% of the solutions out there are complete over engineered stacks that depend on wifi devices, Internet access, connecting to various cloud services...

Interesting context you live in. Here in east europe, 90% of devices you find on eshops are cheap chinese buttons with AAA batteries, that emit signal and another reciever device that plays sound. The sound is not customizable, but it is super cheap stuff.

I would have to go out of my way, to find cloud connected doorbell.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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As a former embedded systems engineer, my door bell is two long bits of wire, a bell, a push button and two C cells. My light switches are similarly complicated.

Is it still easy to get C cells? I probably would've used an 18650 or some AAs.

Current delivery and longevity still put C and D cells over AAs, that’s the main reason they are/were common in doorbells. And while 18650s would be equivalent to a C, they would require a charger most people don’t own already, as well as the usual liion safety issues. I’ve heard horrors of folks putting 18650s in to nimh chargers with sprung terminals :/

As for availability, they are certainly very obtainable where I am in UK. Shops and Amazon etc have them.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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I built my own motion activated stairwell lights using an ESP32 and Home Assistant. Works pretty well.

So then I decided to set up some LED strip lights for my office with really nice wireless buttons from IKEA.

I confirmed that the buttons and the lights both were zigbee compatible, but I missed that one supported only Thread and the other only Matter. So now I have two identical antennas, each handling a different protocol.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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I am super sensitive to over engineering. For my doorbell I wanted something that lets me play a custom bell sound. You would be surprised that 99% of the solutions out there are complete over engineered stacks that depend on wifi devices, Internet access, connecting to various cloud services... So I built my own: a basic wireless button sends a radio 433 MHz signal, and my receiver is plugged inside the house and tr…

> You would be surprised that 99% of the solutions out there are complete over engineered stacks that depend on wifi devices, Internet access, connecting to various cloud services... Interesting context you live in. Here in east europe, 90% of devices you find on eshops are cheap chinese buttons with AAA batteries, that emit signal and another reciever device that plays sound. The sound is not customizable, but it is…

In the past 5 or so years, there's also been the rise of the ones where the button uses the piezoelectric effect to generate the power for the radio so that the button doesn't even need any batteries. Just extremely basic and cheap.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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ZigBee button, double sided scotch tape, Zigbee dongle, HomeAssistant on RPi with a speaker.

That is exactly over engineered crap I want to avoid. I don't want my doorbell to depend on networking or a full blown Linux stack.

To be fair, if you already have a Zigbee network, this is a rather cheap and elegant solution.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a former embedded systems engineer, my door bell is two long bits of wire, a bell, a push button and two C cells. My light switches are similarly complicated.

Is it still easy to get C cells? I probably would've used an 18650 or some AAs.

No issues here in UK. 18650s have high self-discharge rate so are useless for standby applications. AA's are, well, AA's. So you'd have to replace them more often. Not what you want to happen with a door bell.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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I can't imagine how much energy is wasted on what should be, a trivial thing that might run on a 9v battery for 10 years, or, like I had in a house I owned, a door bell that uses no battery at all...just a rope and a bell.

The activation, door knob can be trivially implemented with just piezo-crystal pulse and some radio (433MHz). No battery required, either.
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