OpenClaw trend was like Pokémon Go from 2016. A bunch of mindless people followed a trend just because it was a trend.
Why the jab at Pokémon go? It was a really fun time at release
OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
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Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imho it say something about you that you see people that experiment with new things as "mindless people". I'll go search for my mind now, thanx.
Did they create test cases, wrote a protocol about the results? Just trying something out and see what happens isn’t experimenting
Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#73One thing I really like about Claude Code, Hermes, and other harnesses, is how much feedback they give about what they are doing. They take you along for the ride, which builds trust. I tried OpenClaw for about 10 minutes, and the feedback I got (even using Claude under the hood) felt very "trust me bro, I've got this" - which made me trust it less. I'm sure there's a way to get more verbose feedback? But I did feel…
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least writing scripts you know what it will and won’t do, with open claw it will probably do what you want and maybe won’t do anything you don’t want.
You can check the scripts and cronjobs, als ask it to summarize the scripts actions (using another agent/model if you want). All in all, LLMs are not 100% trustworthy but generally things go as intended.
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"Number one, pause all processing until further notice"... Because OpenClaw (well, all AI) is well known for following instructions correctly. https://au.pcmag.com/ai/116091/meta-security-researchers-ai-...
There are reasons to be careful indeed, but for me all instructions were followed nicely so far. Yesterday I had Claude (in CC) do a large number of changes to my codebase using a bash script, even though I was in planning mode and in claude.md it says: Always first list the steps you're going to take before execution. It apologized of course... But I know how LLMs can be. I take that into account.
Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#76I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?
[1]: https://www.pcmag.com/news/meta-security-researchers-opencla...
[2]: https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on...
[3]: https://thecyberexpress.com/openclaw-vulnerability-open-sour...
Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#77Still a no from me until these things can display any degree of intuition, and even then it's probably still a no. You're asking for trouble if you hook an autonomous agent up to anything that you care about. You're insanely naive if you give it access to everything. OpenAI can't even monitor its own shit properly with teams of well paid engineers, and you are one novel prompt injection technique away from your entir…
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why the jab at Pokémon go? It was a really fun time at release
Fun until government contractors bought all the private data it collected with an unknown scope
Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#79I like the idea but do not have a good use for these semi-autonomous agents. Or any notion for a decent use, frankly. What do people do with them? It sounds great to have an always-on box which does things. Like a server. I have servers. There are even Signal and other transports so you can communicate with the box conveniently. And then what?
Re: OpenClaw 2.0, Accidentally
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imho it say something about you that you see people that experiment with new things as "mindless people". I'll go search for my mind now, thanx.
Did they create test cases, wrote a protocol about the results? Just trying something out and see what happens isn’t experimenting
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/exper...