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Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

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Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

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We need a constitutional amendment codifying the existence independent agencies like the Federal Reserve, CFPB, social security administration, and USGS. I wish Google and others weren't telling the emperor how regal his clothes look but it seems reasonable to remain synced with the USGS.

Independent from who? The voters?

independent from the government, yes. Because government has its own perverse incentives that need to be checked (like redistricting).

Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

#62

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Hey it's me, ur Google. If you didn't want geography to be politicized, why the hell did you elect the guy who politicizes canned fucking beans? Thank you for your attention to this matter.

In 2017 Sergey was seen protesting Trump’s signature Muslim Ban policy. A highly visible act of resistance against one of the things that Trump cared about the most. Does anybody believe that this would happen today?

Happens constantly. it's just that tech decided to kiss the ring this round instead, so it lies in other institutions (and the people) to protest.

Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

#63

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Independent from who? The voters?

independent from the government, yes. Because government has its own perverse incentives that need to be checked (like redistricting).

So, who pays their salaries?

Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

independent from the government, yes. Because government has its own perverse incentives that need to be checked (like redistricting).

So, who pays their salaries?

Same ways that other non-elected government staff is paid. Such funding tends to be mandated into the a law or constitution alongside the establishment itsrlf. That's the case for California's IDC.

If you're suggesting a rogue government with the ability to deprive such independent organizations of funding as a means of control, you're not wrong. If the government and people united have enough of a majority (or enough lack of accountability), laws are as valuable as the paper it's printed on. Leaving the latter aside, it's also just models from the federal constitution that (nearly?) all state constitutions tend to be living documents. Nothing is truly set in stone and most mechanisms tend to have overridde mechanics with a majority or supermajority.

Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

#65

We need a constitutional amendment codifying the existence independent agencies like the Federal Reserve, CFPB, social security administration, and USGS. I wish Google and others weren't telling the emperor how regal his clothes look but it seems reasonable to remain synced with the USGS.

Independent from who? The voters?

Independent from the other three branches of government.

Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Independent from who? The voters?

Independent from the other three branches of government.

Do we the people get to elect the people in this new branch of government? What recourse do we have if they stop serving our interests?

Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

#68
I am Canadian. It is and it will stay Lake Ontario.

I am mad at Google for a lot of things, but this is not one of them. A map should represent the current reality. Google Maps defaults to the user’s local reality, which seems reasonable to me.

I worked at a mapping company and we had similar setups for contested borders. You would get the map that your government accepts. It was not the company’s prerogative to weigh in on those issues.

Remember that if Google Maps has to weigh in on obvious nonsense, it will also need to weigh in on far trickier issues, and at their scale, it might affect the outcome. This sort of legal neutrality seems like a better line of conduct to me.

Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

#69

Anyone else worried that the next president (even Democrat, if they manage to get one) may well let some of the name changes be?

Hopefully Mount McKinley will stay. It was named that in 1896 and held that name until Obama decided to make a political statement.

Re: Google: Lake Ontario/Lake America name change in the U.S. will appear in Maps

#70
The Biden administration in 2022 set a USA record by renaming 643 geographic features nationwide, in an effort to excise a specific term which became offensive when Americans began using it. For the record, Google Maps, as well as Apple Maps, have complied with all of these renamings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_Names_Information_S...

Though the US Gov renamed many places in 1962 (Kennedy), and again in 1974 (Nixon/Ford), they conspicuously left more than a few of them extant, as mentioned in the above article.

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