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It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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post #24

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> Most casual crime is opportunistic, and cameras and lights add uncertainty to the opportunity. Most people aren't willing to chance the camera for an opportunistic score. People have been stealing things from stores which have had cctv for decades. Your premises are manifestly false.

It's a good thing I don't live in a store, then

This comment used to say something about shooting people on sight, which perfectly tracks with the demo that owns these cameras.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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post #28

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> the upcoming Samsung SmartThings API pricing Imagine paying a Korean company five bucks a months so you can get a notification on your phone that your fridge needs a new water filter. People really need to touch grass.

Why does it matter that it’s a Korean company?

Money and personal data going out of the country is not a good thing.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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post #13

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It's video surveillance, it makes it more likely they'll go elsewhere. That's literally the whole point of Ring.

Then go for a CCTV system with local storage for the whole apartment complex instead of a cloud based personal surveillance system. Then you don’t need 5 cloud services and people can go back to knocking.

When I break into peoples houses, I tend to take the NVR with me.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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post #20

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I literally just said it solved my problem. Most casual crime is opportunistic, and cameras and lights add uncertainty to the opportunity. Most people aren't willing to chance the camera for an opportunistic score.

> Most casual crime is opportunistic, and cameras and lights add uncertainty to the opportunity. Most people aren't willing to chance the camera for an opportunistic score. People have been stealing things from stores which have had cctv for decades. Your premises are manifestly false.

Sure, theft still happens, but I don't see why home theft wouldn't be reduced by the presence of CCTV or other video surveillance.

CCTV doesn't work well when people feel like nobody is going to bother to check its footage (e.g. pocketing a $2 drink from a big-box department store). But when it comes to homes, there are much higher chances of captured footage being used and examined, so it may cause opportunistic burglars to look at other houses instead.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then go for a CCTV system with local storage for the whole apartment complex instead of a cloud based personal surveillance system. Then you don’t need 5 cloud services and people can go back to knocking.

When I break into peoples houses, I tend to take the NVR with me.

NVR?

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I break into peoples houses, I tend to take the NVR with me.

NVR?

Network Video Recorder, a name for devices where IP cameras stream their video to to be stored on, usually, a hard disk drive.

Same thing as DVR for analog surveillance cameras, just with eth (usually PoE) ports.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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I fail to see the relation between a video doorbell and stopping a burglar. Burglars wear masks. Also, a doorbell ringing on the outside of the door is not only silly but in case of an apartment complex highly annoying for your neighbors. And make sure your neighbors like being monitored through your five services. Personally I have a button outside my front door. It is connected with a copper wire to the other side…

You can have a camera doorbell using your copper wire.

With a video doorbell you can get notifications when a person enters your property. You can notify police or neighbors if it’s a stranger

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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I am super sensitive to over engineering. For my doorbell I wanted something that lets me play a custom bell sound. You would be surprised that 99% of the solutions out there are complete over engineered stacks that depend on wifi devices, Internet access, connecting to various cloud services... So I built my own: a basic wireless button sends a radio 433 MHz signal, and my receiver is plugged inside the house and triggers an off-the-shelf playback PCB module that reads an MP3 off an SD card and plays it on a speaker wired to the module. No Wifi, no Internet, no cloud, no apps. And the rare times I want to change the sound, I update the MP3 on the SD card.

Edit: there are very, very few products on the market designed as simply as this, just an R/F signal triggering local playback. I think the only commercial doorbells designed like this I found were an out-of-stock product, and a UK device designed for 230V that would have required a bulky adapter to work for me in the US.

Re: It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

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post #13

I fail to see the relation between a video doorbell and stopping a burglar. Burglars wear masks. Also, a doorbell ringing on the outside of the door is not only silly but in case of an apartment complex highly annoying for your neighbors. And make sure your neighbors like being monitored through your five services. Personally I have a button outside my front door. It is connected with a copper wire to the other side…

It's video surveillance, it makes it more likely they'll go elsewhere. That's literally the whole point of Ring.

People always say this, but is there any evidence it is true? Home burglars aren't exactly the cream of the criminal crop.
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