Live data from Hacker News

Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

cnn.com

41–50 of 62 posts

Re: Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

#42
post #31
post #14

Inside the US. In the rest of the world, it shows the correct name.

The correct name depends on your context. I know it’s unpopular but it’s true.

One thing that does seem to be incorrect is that Google has a single name on the lake - Lake America, when surely that only applies to the American half. The US-Canadian border runs down the middle of the lake, so unless I'm missing something Trump's renaming only applies to the American half, and the correct way for Google to show it would be with different names for each half of the lake.

Re: Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

#43

While they show Lake Ontario (Lake America) in the rest of the world, I would like to suggest that they apply a more patronizing treatment to the alias: Lake Ontario ("Lake America") The quotes add a certain.. je ne sais quoi. I think overall it's not Google's job to decide the names of things. Half of America voted for the circus, enjoy!

If I'm swimming in Lake America, in America, greatest country in the world, I don't want to hear this "Je ne sais quoi" - Keep it in American, buddy.

[dead]

Re: Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

#45
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't really on Google. Countries disagree on how things should be named. Google sources the US centric view from the Geographic Names Information System (GNIS). Blame the person causing the GNIS updates.

> This isn't really on Google Yes, because it’s so agonizingly difficult to `s/Lake America/Lake Ontario/g` in a data feed. Truly the engineering feat of our time.

[dead]

Re: Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

#46
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The correct name depends on your context. I know it’s unpopular but it’s true.

One thing that does seem to be incorrect is that Google has a single name on the lake - Lake America, when surely that only applies to the American half. The US-Canadian border runs down the middle of the lake, so unless I'm missing something Trump's renaming only applies to the American half, and the correct way for Google to show it would be with different names for each half of the lake.

That's ridiculous! How do you rename half of a lake!

I say that there are two lakes. It remains for future generations to decide how the two lakes are apportioned. Perhaps each of them are coterminous, with the same boundaries, size and volume, but one is named "Lake America" and one is not. One is a lake in US waters, and the other is in some foreign country.

Perhaps of the two lakes, they are split in twain, and there is an international border running through the middle of these two distinct bodies of water. Perhaps vessels will littorally obtain right of passage in international waters, and undergo customs inspections before they can cross over the somewhat amorphous border between Lake Ontario and Lake America, and vice versa.

Re: Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing that does seem to be incorrect is that Google has a single name on the lake - Lake America, when surely that only applies to the American half. The US-Canadian border runs down the middle of the lake, so unless I'm missing something Trump's renaming only applies to the American half, and the correct way for Google to show it would be with different names for each half of the lake.

That's ridiculous! How do you rename half of a lake! I say that there are two lakes . It remains for future generations to decide how the two lakes are apportioned. Perhaps each of them are coterminous, with the same boundaries, size and volume, but one is named "Lake America" and one is not. One is a lake in US waters, and the other is in some foreign country. Perhaps of the two lakes, they are split in twain, and t…

That's not really how local naming works. I call Germany Germany but the Germans call it Deutschland. There's not two Germany's, there's just one and I have a different name for it. It really doesn't matter if a geographic object is completely inside, partially inside, or completely outside a country's borders, they have an official or de facto name for it that could differ from what you call it.

Re: Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

#48
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's ridiculous! How do you rename half of a lake! I say that there are two lakes . It remains for future generations to decide how the two lakes are apportioned. Perhaps each of them are coterminous, with the same boundaries, size and volume, but one is named "Lake America" and one is not. One is a lake in US waters, and the other is in some foreign country. Perhaps of the two lakes, they are split in twain, and t…

That's not really how local naming works. I call Germany Germany but the Germans call it Deutschland. There's not two Germany's, there's just one and I have a different name for it. It really doesn't matter if a geographic object is completely inside, partially inside, or completely outside a country's borders, they have an official or de facto name for it that could differ from what you call it.

1) Whoooooosh!

2) You really had to choose that country? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germany

Re: Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

#49
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a legal requirement that non-governmental entities source their mapping data from official U.S. government sources?

I don't think that matters with the current administration.

I think that's part of what is frustrating to so many people? Google isn't a small business, and has the legal resources to at least fight back if they were challenged by the administration. Any such challenge would likely fall apart in trial, but even if it didn't Google would have at least challenged the absurdity of it.

Re: Google Maps changed to show Lake Ontario as Lake America

#50

While they show Lake Ontario (Lake America) in the rest of the world, I would like to suggest that they apply a more patronizing treatment to the alias: Lake Ontario ("Lake America") The quotes add a certain.. je ne sais quoi. I think overall it's not Google's job to decide the names of things. Half of America voted for the circus, enjoy!

Well technically less than a quarter voted for it, but fair enough.

It's probably a good representative sample. So I do believe that roughly 50% of the US population supports or would vote for Trump.
Post reply on HN