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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by arcanemachiner »

saithound wrote: post #7
paytonjjones wrote: post #3

> I believe ChatGPT Work sessions are billed against your Codex allowance, while ChatGPT Chat Sessions get their own, separate allowance. This may help explain the model availability differences That's correct, and also why ChatGPT Work is DOA for me personally. I need 100% of my Codex budget for Codex. Too bad, it would have been nice to have a few extra features for the chat interface.

If we voice this opinion publicly, the most likely end result is that OpenAI will start billing our chat sessioms against our Codex budget too.

I thought they just did this? People were using some loophole to use their Chat sessions to power their Codex usage after their Codex quotas had run out.

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by [deleted] »

Kuinox wrote: post #2

There is more to the browser, it can give you a remote desktop access to the browser. So it's not completely headless. But when I tried it, the remote control completely froze after a few seconds.

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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by ValentineC »

tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

> "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files saved in the folder"

It's both awesome and scary at the same time to realising that most AI these days can work on something like this that's official and tedious, and probably not screw up too much (or do better at it than some people with fat fingers).

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by bredren »

tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

I am not sure I understand how this is better from using Claude Code from the mobile app.

Or Codex from the ChatGPT app.

If you have supplied tooling on your system, you have access to all of this and more.

I think the idea is most people don’t have a machine up and available, nor maintain skills for interacting with their core services?

One thing that keeps me from adopting codex more deeply is the architecture around mobile access.

Claude Code makes this trivial /rc and you are done.

Codex requires you run the desktop app and additional authentication requirements. The result of this has been codex is almost always relegated to fleet worker rather than orchestrator.

I wonder if the emphasis on this work feature has something to do w the persistent hurdles to remote control if codex sessions.

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by skybrian »

paytonjjones wrote: post #3

> I believe ChatGPT Work sessions are billed against your Codex allowance, while ChatGPT Chat Sessions get their own, separate allowance. This may help explain the model availability differences That's correct, and also why ChatGPT Work is DOA for me personally. I need 100% of my Codex budget for Codex. Too bad, it would have been nice to have a few extra features for the chat interface.

Similarly, I use my budget with Shelley on exe.dev. But it seems nice that as far as I can tell, for ChatGPT usage, coding agents compete on a level footing.

I still might try ChatGPT Work sometime if there was some feature I couldn't get from Shelley.

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by alansaber »

tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

Maybe for the occasional something. If I had an actual workflow i'd prefer a dedicated tool over the newest chatgpt "do everything" app.

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by alansaber »

ValentineC wrote: post #14
tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

> "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files saved in the folder" It's both awesome and scary at the same time to realising that most AI these days can work on something like this that's official and tedious, and probably not screw up too much (or do better at it than some people with fat fingers).

Less bureaucracy should be the focus of AI marketing, rather than global superintelligent robots or smut generation

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by cwmoore »

alansaber wrote: post #18
ValentineC wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files saved in the folder" It's both awesome and scary at the same time to realising that most AI these days can work on something like this that's official and tedious, and probably not screw up too much (or do better at it than some people with fat fingers).

Less bureaucracy should be the focus of AI marketing, rather than global superintelligent robots or smut generation

Lets just not redo subscription gods
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