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Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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There is. Simply do not install sudo and do not allow access to root at runtime. I am serious. There is absolutely nothing you cannot run unprivileged these days. Can even run sshd from a systemd user unit in your home folder, and even assign port 22 to it if needed with Linux Capabilities.

How do you update the kernel?

Idk why we need to use sudo to update kernel. In macos, we don't need sudo access?

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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there is currently no linux distribution where it's safe to run an application as is. they tend to have access to /home which is game over.

some people who actually care about security will create bubblewrap/bwrap profiles for applications and then run those profiles. an application isolated in this way will have a limited view of the system much less the ability to modify it. it usually takes the form of a custom /home for every app.

this still leaves the kernel exposed for an application to poke at and maybe escape with a 0day. some people run a VMM to further isolate the application, these days you can passthrough Wayland. if the application isn't graphical you should probably use gVisor instead.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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post #124

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Sudo isn't security theater when used for what it was designed for. It's useless for constraining apps you run as your own user ID.

I challenge anyone to name even one thing that requires sudo on a Linux desktop not better handled with systemd user units, Linux Capabilities, rootless docker, etc.

How would you install packages (or update the kernel)?

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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> What is different here? I don’t understand how this is a question. What’s different is that it comes configured this way out of the box, silently, without warning. It’s functionally equivalent to opting in to giving all user accounts root privileges, which is not what anyone expects the default configuration to be. You can choose to configure your installs this way if you choose to do so. It should not come this wa…

It does warn you. It's an opinionated Linux for a modern developer/user. This modification absolutely makes sense in that context.

Ah, the opinionated strikes again.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Omarchy has me questioning liking Rails because it just… straight up sucks? It comes preloaded with friggen ZOOM. I don’t think Windows bloat is that bad. If it makes people happy it makes people happy I guess. These guys trying it would be even more amazed at Fedora Workstation (“you can press windows and it shows all your open windows? That’s so much better”)

i don't understand why DHH is shipping so much bloat in omarchy. The better solution would be to ask if user wants to install bloatware during installation.

DHH created a distro for what he personally needs for work, and his company uses Zoom.

It's that simple.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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A few days ago someone found they were flowing USB descriptors straight into the shell. https://github.com/omacom/omarchy/commit/9285b19d6a72eba3df8... Don't use vibecoded distros. It doesn't matter whether they fix this or that, or whether you care about a particular vuln. This is not sensible. It's why you switched away from Windows in the first place, remember?

Other than hype, what's the appeal here? I saw a couple video demos recently, and was horrified that it seemed one had to memorize a dozen key binding shortcuts to really use it. Is that rather common now? I'm just a Gnome pleb who prefers discoverability via UI.

There's a segment of people who are into customizing their desktop environment as a hobby and end in itself.

Personally I've never really been into it, and these days I have a broad and revolving set of machines I have to use, so this sort of thing is absolutely not worth the bother. I just install KDE Plasma and use the computer.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What is different here? I don’t understand how this is a question. What’s different is that it comes configured this way out of the box, silently, without warning. It’s functionally equivalent to opting in to giving all user accounts root privileges, which is not what anyone expects the default configuration to be. You can choose to configure your installs this way if you choose to do so. It should not come this wa…

It does warn you. It's an opinionated Linux for a modern developer/user. This modification absolutely makes sense in that context.

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Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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No one serious about security touches Omarchy. Practically every distro suffers from critical LPEs, but at least there’s a bar. Omarchy is a hot mess that exists for the same reason that matcha is in our coffeeshops and peptides are in our collective memory.

This is a weird metaphor - why do you think people buy matcha at coffeeshops or use peptides? Those two things don't have anything obvious to do with each other, let alone with Omarchy.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Omarchy has me questioning liking Rails because it just… straight up sucks? It comes preloaded with friggen ZOOM. I don’t think Windows bloat is that bad. If it makes people happy it makes people happy I guess. These guys trying it would be even more amazed at Fedora Workstation (“you can press windows and it shows all your open windows? That’s so much better”)

I don't find it to be too bloated, and the things I don't like I simply uninstall.

So far its the best Linux Desktop experience I've had, and I hardly have to configure anything out of the box, most of it just works.

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