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Re: Creepy Crawlies

#361

There has to be some not-yet-discovered way to have a capcha that is easy for any human but impossible for robot. Too bad capchas hurt user experience no matter how easy they are. Another solution I came up with while reading HN comments: whitelist IPs instead blacklisting. Give access to well-behaving hosts/groups. It can even be shared across different sites. Although this would create a market for selling "good IP…

The reverse turing test :(

Re: Creepy Crawlies

#362

There has to be some not-yet-discovered way to have a capcha that is easy for any human but impossible for robot. Too bad capchas hurt user experience no matter how easy they are. Another solution I came up with while reading HN comments: whitelist IPs instead blacklisting. Give access to well-behaving hosts/groups. It can even be shared across different sites. Although this would create a market for selling "good IP…

Even better: make people pay for access or vouch to give access to a third party.

Re: Creepy Crawlies

#365

There has to be some not-yet-discovered way to have a capcha that is easy for any human but impossible for robot. Too bad capchas hurt user experience no matter how easy they are. Another solution I came up with while reading HN comments: whitelist IPs instead blacklisting. Give access to well-behaving hosts/groups. It can even be shared across different sites. Although this would create a market for selling "good IP…

Even better: make people pay for access or vouch to give access to a third party.

Some kind of proof of stake might be viable. "I as a visitor stake 1 cent that I'm a genuine user and not a sloppy bot, server is free to withdraw my stake if it's not true". If works, withdrawn money can be used to cover hosting costs.

Re: Creepy Crawlies

#366

There has to be some not-yet-discovered way to have a capcha that is easy for any human but impossible for robot. Too bad capchas hurt user experience no matter how easy they are. Another solution I came up with while reading HN comments: whitelist IPs instead blacklisting. Give access to well-behaving hosts/groups. It can even be shared across different sites. Although this would create a market for selling "good IP…

There are definitely ways of proving you're a human, unfortunately it also means giving up your privacy and anonymity (IRL ID Checks combined with appropriate routing and validation - even going as far as certifying the browser being used)

Obviously though none of us want to give that up, so the alternative is that we can almost never 'prove' we are human especially with bots getting as smart or smarter than the average redditor.

Re: Creepy Crawlies

#367
post #154

I maintain a formerly popular gaming website, and it used to have hundreds of legitimate requests per second. The load would be especially high during popular event times. So, it’s always been running on a dedicated server. It also has an “online users” counter, which attempted to count real user sessions of unauthenticated user which still maintained a session, which lets them comment, or modify certain filter and d…

> I don’t want to stop the bots from updating their knowledge based on all the content. Why not? At this point, any attempt to try to meet the bots halfway is doomed.

All anti-bot measures are inherently flawed, and if you overdo it, your false positives cause real harm by excluding actual people from using your services.

Not as in “1 out of 1000 legit requests get blocked” but “you’re going to block 100% of some person’s requests.”

Re: Creepy Crawlies

#368
When a hapless user visits my site well

muahahahahah

Sorry, just the thought of it

But when they do… boy do I have a trap waiting for them.

My wife calls me The Genius. I’m the guy she calls when her battery dies or when her instagram breaks like when it shows that random guy in her DMs, stupid bugs LOL

I digress. Alas, when a user lands on my page. My page wants to know exactly 2 things:

1. Why are you here and who are you

And 2. Can you produce a working solution to Pharoah’s Fortune

…those of you aren’t familiar Pharoah’s Fortune is an old chestnut little poem, a riddle if you will I like to ask candidates and so far nobody’s solved it

And the reason nobody has solved it is Pharoah’s Fortune is a very tricky problem. It’s not something you can “solve” per se it’s more like you arrive there.

So far no one has solved it. They all fall for the same trick! It is of course what separates those who write elegant C versus those write poor quality JavaScript.

So I always say to my students to keep an open mind because you never know who - or should I say where you’re talking to.

I’m bookish.

Re: Creepy Crawlies

#370
> They still do that — welcome to the wonderful world of “proxy SDK monetization.” It's big business, and your TV is probably doing it.

I must be missing something. How can using peoples' TVs as bot farms be even remotely legal? Especially when the purpose is to avoid IP blocks?

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