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U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by aftbit »

undeveloper wrote: post #326
aftbit wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>[The US State Dept's] examples include alleged railway and pipeline sabotage in Europe, attacks on energy infrastructure, Rose City Antifa, resistance to Atlanta’s proposed police-training center, Jane’s Revenge and publications carrying statements attributed to armed organizations. At least one of these things is not like the others. Why are peaceful protests against "Cop City" (Atlanta's proposed police-training c…

> violent attacks > on energy infrastructure that's not violence

IMO violence is a spectrum. Peaceful protesting with signs is 0 violence. Attacking self-driving cars or department stores without hurting any people is a bit higher up the scale. Attacking food supplies or critical infrastructure is higher still, as it will have downstream effects on everyone that might lead to death and suffering. Attacking actual human bodies is even higher up the scale of course.

I get your point though. There's a strong push to characterize destruction of property as violence, as part of a push to delegitimize protest. To some people, the police can use physical violence against people to stop a protest and that's okay, whereas if the protestors so much as throw a brick through a window, they're violent extremists.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by OKRainbowKid »

woodpanel wrote: post #899
OKRainbowKid wrote: post #743

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You mean the ones that haven't actually been busted, their true motivation and political conviction unknown, with the only thing pointing towards left-wing extremism being "Bekennerschreiben" that have linguistic traits of being authored by native Russian speakers?

yeah those "unbusted" ones, like the Hammerbande, that have been caught, caught on camera trying to murder civillians they deemed being Hitler, and thus rightfully jailed.

You were talking about attacks on electricity and rail infrastructure. Why the pivot?

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by asib »

frumplestlatz wrote: post #779
asib wrote: post #379

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You're appealing to another proscription decision that is extraordinarily controversial.

Controversial -- particularly amongst those of a particular political persuasion that supports a terrorist state -- doesn’t mean preposterous.

It doesn't mean preposterous or not preposterous. It does mean there is general dispute regarding the proscription.

Appealing to it is not really progressing your argument. Both decisions are controversial, you don't make a more convincing argument as to why one controversial decision should not be considered controversial, by pointing to a different, also controversial, decision.

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