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Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Re: Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Post by inigyou »

usern20260720 wrote: post #60
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #54

Atmospheric injections of Sulphur is going to be the only answer.

oh, yes. Anything but stopping the extraction, trade or combustion of fossil fuels. Even if the workarounds have unforeseen consequences.

It's too late for that. We had to do it 20 years ago. Plus, you and I have no power over fossil fuel extraction, but we do have the individual ability to put sulphur in the upper atmosphere (with effort). Game theory rules everything.

Re: Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Post by inigyou »

strictnein wrote: post #20
GolfPopper wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Legally? Almost certainly no one. Ethically? The corporate executives who deliberately covered up evidence of global warming, starting back in the 70s.[1] 1. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-a...

And since we've all known about this for 30+ years, is it still their fault, or is it ours?

What should I have done about it for the past 30 years?

Re: Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Post by morsch »

DataDive wrote: post #52
morsch wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tourism is 10% of the economy, most of it is domestic or internal to Europe; most of it doesn't involve air travel or city hopping.

Note that this 10% is heavily skewed toward the richest, biggest cities. In bigger cities, it might be closer to 20-30% of their economy. Take that away, and it would have a cascading effect through entire countries.

Doesn't appear to be true, it's https://assets-global.website-files.com/6329bc97af73223b5759...

Re: Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Post by hiddencost »

usern20260720 wrote: post #60
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #54

Atmospheric injections of Sulphur is going to be the only answer.

oh, yes. Anything but stopping the extraction, trade or combustion of fossil fuels. Even if the workarounds have unforeseen consequences.

Even if we hit carbon neutral tomorrow it's too late.

Re: Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Post by inigyou »

failbuffer wrote: post #58
GolfPopper wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Legally? Almost certainly no one. Ethically? The corporate executives who deliberately covered up evidence of global warming, starting back in the 70s.[1] 1. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-a...

And don't forget the politicians and media personalities who knowingly or negligently denied that there was even a problem.

They're winning. They have billions of dollars and very cushy lives.

Re: Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Post by aliasxneo »

Just a friendly reminder that Fortune has been owned since 2018 by Thai businessman Chatchaval Jiaravanon, a member of the Chearavanont family that controls the CP Group conglomerate. CP Group created Siam Land Flying in 1991 as its in-house flight department for executives. It later added charter (Executive Wings) and air-ambulance services and still operates King Air 350 and Hawker jets.

These owners don't care about any of your feelings on climate change.

Re: Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Post by yostrovs »

ghurtado wrote: post #35
drstewart wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what Europeans are worried about, while thousands of you die from heat warnings?

I don't know what Europeans are worried about. You'd have to ask them. Who's dying from "heat warnings"? Are you trying to make my point about rampant idiocy in my country? If you were assuming that I'm European for some dumb reason, then rest assured I'm not worried about this passing thought on the writing style of a publication I never read. Thank you for your concern, but I will be alright.

The article is shining a light on a serious, potentially devastating situation in Europe. You, due to ignorance or misunderstanding, point out that Americans are supposedly stupid because millions of dollars are roughly millions of euros. But the underlying problem is that it is the Europeans that are worried the most about climate change, and are the ones that have refused to implement mitigating strategies that would help overcome the challenge. They lack energy resources, the will to take action, and rely on blaming others for their predicament. But it is stupid Americans with their energy, air conditioning, and water reservoirs.

Re: Europe's summer drought is so extreme that desertification is a growing threat

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Post by the__alchemist »

usern20260720 wrote: post #60
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #54

Atmospheric injections of Sulphur is going to be the only answer.

oh, yes. Anything but stopping the extraction, trade or combustion of fossil fuels. Even if the workarounds have unforeseen consequences.

Sulfur or similar may be more politically viable due to the tradgedy-of-the-commons. They can be enacted without as much consensus, maybe.
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