I remember the good ol' days when our parents told us what we could and could not use or buy. If Johnny's parents let them do something, Johnny's parents would get admonished for it and we just wouldn't see Johnny anymore.
California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
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Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#142So is anyone going to revert the commits that jumped the gun on this? E.g. systemd's birthdate field https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954
I have no problem with that as long as it's not the government controlling the age verification. It should be a parent. And as a parent I want the ability to properly control my children's devices - the fact that Apple, and especially Google pretty much ignored this feature until now is a big part of why we have these dumb laws in the first place. Think about it - if every phone you got asked you at first config "are…
> And as a parent I want the ability to properly control my children's devices
* https://www.apple.com/uk/child-safety/
* https://families.google/familylink/
* https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/family-safety
If (some) parents actually parented instead of abdicating that role to the state/education system then this tripe would get far less traction - though cynically they'd just switch to the other argument they always trot out.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#143Linux? Or also BSD, ReactOS, hobby OS #24562 etc... ?
Yes also BSD and friends. From TFA > These amendments redefine the term “operating system provider” to exclude any person or entity that distributes an OS or application “under license terms that permit a recipient to copy, redistribute, and modify the software.” Any software distributed under the GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache licenses satisfies that test, which removes the likes of Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, and the…
It's kind of weird though. Is VxWorks (a proprietary embedded OS used on some of the Martian rovers) going to require it in case some underage Martians try to use Facebook?
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#144Hey so uh... Did anyone notice the word "accessible" here?
> Provide an ACCESSIBLE interface, at account setup,..
I wonder if the biggest effect of this bill will be that proprietary operating systems will have to have accessibility features built-in, and will be subject to ADA compliance lawsuits if it's deficient in some way.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then I missed the public discussion on why making it illegal to possess DIY guns is not enough. Did that actually get debated or just handwaved away? By the time I became aware of this whole technical blocking thing, that was the only proposal on the table.
Ah, I think I know this one. It's because people who make their own guns are nerds. You know, like you or I, except in a different topic. I remember reading a couple of posts on R*dd*t where two folk were discussing fitting accessories to guns and one posted something like "No, you can fit that, all you do is mill a slot on top of the receiver and drill and tap a hole at the end and you can just about screw this thin…
> here you're allowed fully automatic weapons, if you keep them at a suitable shooting range and don't try to wander around town with them, and you're not oh maybe a convicted violent criminal for example
I think you're overstating this. My understanding is that here in GB (unsure about NI) fully automatic firearms are absolutely prohibited with only limited exceptions that the general public are typically ineligible for. Could you elaborate?
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#146So Android is exempted since it's opens source?
Practically, the components of Android which mandate a user account are not distributed so that the user can modify them. The exemption does not apply.
Yeah most OSes contain open source code, but that doesn't make them open source as a whole.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#147Excellent. From now on all kids will become linux natives. The decade of the linux desktop is coming!
Yes and the end of locked down Apple iDevices.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have no problem with that as long as it's not the government controlling the age verification. It should be a parent. And as a parent I want the ability to properly control my children's devices - the fact that Apple, and especially Google pretty much ignored this feature until now is a big part of why we have these dumb laws in the first place. Think about it - if every phone you got asked you at first config "are…
> And as a parent I want the ability to properly control my children's devices * https://www.apple.com/uk/child-safety/ * https://families.google/familylink/ * https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/family-safety You already have the ability, all parents do, that some (or most) haven't is why this crap gets proposed in the first place and used as a justification for invading everyone's privacy. If (some) paren…
Yes, if everyone did everything correctly every time in perpetuity, we wouldn’t need laws. Very astute observation.
Unfortunately, things haven’t worked out that way so far.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#149This is technically good news sure, but its just a matter of time just like everything.
"Everything already tracks you anyway, so what's one more thing?"
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#150this bill fixes nothing. if you wanted to prevent harm from the internet you would start with proper privacy laws. but we all know why that will never happen
> if you wanted to prevent harm from the internet you would start with proper privacy laws
Explain how a privacy that protects you and me will somehow not protect a pedophile. How does that work?
I am FOR privacy. I don't think it can be done.
I do not want to have any information at all stored anywhere, encrypted, decentralized or otherwise. Nada. Its just text. I want to just be a number in everyone database. I want to be able to spawn millions of numbers that will never be related to each other. My ideal privacy world is a world where bots thrive.
Just go to face to face discussion if you care so much about who you are talking to.