Now do FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD... =p
California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
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Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#52Weird how the people who habitually complain about government are conspicuously silent when it delivers something they wanted.
What a pointlessly provocative and unproductive thing to say.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#53Linux? Or also BSD, ReactOS, hobby OS #24562 etc... ?
They include the majority of OSI licenses, including BSD. So the majority of BSD variants are included.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#54Cool now let's exempt hobbyists from the 3-D printer must certify you are not printing gun parts pending legislation.
A quick search suggests that 3D-printed guns being used in crime is an actual, for-real, and growing problem. I take it that you wouldn't be OK with somebody building a uranium enrichment facility in their backyard for their hobby reactor. So there is a line to be drawn on where people's freedom to tinker ends; it's just a question of where you draw it. Personally, I think given there is an actual documented, non-iso…
The problem may exist, but I don't believe that intrusive "gun part deyection" solves it.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#55Weird how the people who habitually complain about government are conspicuously silent when it delivers something they wanted.
When people pointed out the consequences this would have for open source, that did not mean what they wanted was an open source exemption. It was just meant to demonstrate just how poorly conceived the law is that nobody at any point even thought about this before it was signed in. Frankly the consequences for open source are not even at the forefront of concerns about what these rushed regulations will do to the world.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#56Linux? Or also BSD, ReactOS, hobby OS #24562 etc... ?
Yes also BSD and friends.
From TFA
> These amendments redefine the term “operating system provider” to exclude any person or entity that distributes an OS or application “under license terms that permit a recipient to copy, redistribute, and modify the software.” Any software distributed under the GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache licenses satisfies that test, which removes the likes of Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, and the BSD family from AB 1856’s scope.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#57Excellent. From now on all kids will become linux natives. The decade of the linux desktop is coming!
So I run my app in a linux container under windows and I'm exempt from age verification? Isn't android linux under the hood? I'm sure the law is not so easy to get around. How does it work?
I know it sounds like a joke again, but the GNU/Linux Linux distinction is kinda important semantically.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, this is fantastic. Should be top of the page. I’m honestly shocked, I’ve fully internalized that everything is corrupt and beholden to big corporations. Somehow, a victory! Looks like the Linux Foundation and EFF pushed back, but they’re not exactly big. Good job, California lawmakers!
> Good job, California lawmakers! Is this serious or sarcasm? They passed a horrible law, now its an internally contradictory horrible law because apparently it isn't important enough to consistently enforce. So, you know. Why legislate it? There isn't much of an angle here that reflects well on Californian lawmakers, they're still supporting this authoritarian trend of de-anonymisation and rolling back free communic…
> now its an internally contradictory horrible law because apparently it isn't important enough to consistently enforce
Law is not an abstract code, but an incremental sometimes futile approach to shape society. They only want a way to hold big corporations accountable to exploiting children. They don't actually intend the effects on the consumer, so they tried to fix on easily changeable effect: "Don't worsen the privacy for people who want it." If you are using e.g. MS Windows, you have given up everything already. They do a lot of "telemetry" and for example everything you typed into MS Word is already licensed to Microsoft.
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#59> (2) “Operating system provider” does not mean a person or entity that distributes an operating system or application under license terms that permit a recipient to copy, redistribute, and modify the software.
Where does MacOS and iOS fit then? The core of both those operating systems (darwin) is open source (APSL licensed).
Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
#60Now do FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD... =p
Those are also covered.
> software distributed under the GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache licenses are exempt