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California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

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Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

#31

Weird how the people who habitually complain about government are conspicuously silent when it delivers something they wanted.

"Delivers something they wanted" is the most bizarre way possible to phrase "followed through with the majority of a reprehensible agenda and were forced to carve out an exception due to technical constraints and massive blowback."

Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bill exempts: > a person or entity that distributes an operating system or application under license terms that permit a recipient to copy, redistribute, and modify the software which at least doesn't choose specific winners and losers among licenses. It does disfavor license-free and public domain software, which isn't great.

> It does disfavor license-free and public domain software, which isn't great. Public domain software is free to "copy, redistribute, and modify", so ... where's the disfavour?

Technically you could argue that public domain works don't have license terms that make them free so the exception can't apply. Only an ignorant or ultra literalist judge would see it that way but you never know.

On the other hand a public domain dedication is a binding term that gives you permission (or license) to do what you want...

Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

#33
post #17

Excellent. From now on all kids will become linux natives. The decade of the linux desktop is coming!

Linux phones, Linux gaming machines, Linux on Desktop and Laptops, Linux VR/AR, Linux watches, etc.

And then the exception will evaporate overnight.

Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It does disfavor license-free and public domain software, which isn't great. Public domain software is free to "copy, redistribute, and modify", so ... where's the disfavour?

It only applies to software distributed under a license. Public domain software isn't distributed under a license. It's in the public domain; no license is needed.

Can you name an OS that's licensed as public domain?

Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

#35
post #30

Cool now let's exempt hobbyists from the 3-D printer must certify you are not printing gun parts pending legislation.

A quick search suggests that 3D-printed guns being used in crime is an actual, for-real, and growing problem. I take it that you wouldn't be OK with somebody building a uranium enrichment facility in their backyard for their hobby reactor. So there is a line to be drawn on where people's freedom to tinker ends; it's just a question of where you draw it. Personally, I think given there is an actual documented, non-iso…

My position on anything is "REGULATION BAD" when it's against individuals and non commercial/open source projects, "REGULATION GOOD" for massive corporations, and "REGULATION MAYBE GOOD NEEDS NUANCED DEBATE" for anything in between.

Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

#36

I'm starting to warm up to this law. So many loopholes. Nothing to worry about. I think California's incompetence has finally progressed from "proposes bad laws" to "proposes and botches the implementation of bad laws"

If you had an agent in the legislature wouldn’t you prefer exactly one of this form? My ideal representative is able to command support from diverse interests and subtly damages those opposed to me while subtly advantaging the principles I believe in - making compromises necessary to move incrementally to a state more aligned with what I wish it to be.

The reality is that many people want bad laws. Without the support of those people one does not get elected.

This use of people for power while de-facto disenfranchising them is pretty widespread already. For instance, some half of California and Texas are responsible for their strength in the electoral college while simultaneously being entirely disenfranchised when electing the President. Good technique.

Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

#37

Weird how the people who habitually complain about government are conspicuously silent when it delivers something they wanted.

They shouldn't need to pass this if they didn't pass age verification at all.

This is not a good thing, it's a very small patch for a very bad thing.

Re: California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux phones, Linux gaming machines, Linux on Desktop and Laptops, Linux VR/AR, Linux watches, etc.

And then the exception will evaporate overnight.

One gotta love politicians and their "solutions" and their longevity.
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