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Lawmakers added $1 to car insurance policies. That money paid for Flock cameras

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In Texas I'm surprised it's not legal to shoot a catalytic converter thief if caught in the act. That's what they used to do for cattle rustlers.

I would love to live in a world where thieves feared for their lives.

Try Saudi Arabia or Iran

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My comment may sound cliché, but I genuinely believe this, no material possession is worth more than a human life. A catalytic converter can be replaced, a life cannot.

> A catalytic converter can be replaced, a life cannot. So don't go around stealing catalytic converters. Same deal with states with "stand your ground laws". It's astonishingly easy to not get shot: don't invade someone's home. And on the "replacing" part- on whose dime? What if someone's only means of transportation is affected, and they lose wages or outright lose their job? Are you going to pay for it? Of course…

Social welfare and affordable insurance will solve more than owning guns and killing each other over property.

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post #49

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My comment may sound cliché, but I genuinely believe this, no material possession is worth more than a human life. A catalytic converter can be replaced, a life cannot.

> A catalytic converter can be replaced, a life cannot. So don't go around stealing catalytic converters. Same deal with states with "stand your ground laws". It's astonishingly easy to not get shot: don't invade someone's home. And on the "replacing" part- on whose dime? What if someone's only means of transportation is affected, and they lose wages or outright lose their job? Are you going to pay for it? Of course…

government / police should be able to handle this

There's a classic saying: "When seconds count, the police are minutes away."

...and going back to the original topic, even the Flock cameras aren't going to stop criminals, if that's what you're implying.

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#104

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No, the driveway wouldn't count. Texas doesn't define burglary by property boundaries; you have to enter a "building" or a "habitation", and a habitation must be a "structure" or a "vehicle".

Are you sure that doesn't qualify on the basis that it is the curtilage of your home? Often this counts as "in your dwelling" because it's in your private space that immediately accompanies the dwelling.

> Often this counts as "in your dwelling"

Is this true in any context other than a potential fourth amendment violation by an agent of the state?

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#105
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It also mentions: > theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime. Seems like that qualifies

I think this even covers graffiti during the nighttime.

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#106

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If you sleep in the car it will qualify no matter where you're parked. This also appears to be true of an RV or any vehicle that clearly accommodates sleeping. For reference: "Burglary" under the Texas penal code is defined by entering a habitation or any portion of a building that is not open to the public, either with the intent to commit a crime, or when followed by the actual commission of, or the attempt to comm…

>I feel like it's a mistake for the legal code to distinguish between what are fully interchangeable terms in the language the code is supposedly written in. They're not at all fully interchangeable, just many Americans have a poor grasp of the English language.

The language is solely defined by what people think it means. The terms are in fact fully interchangeable.

If you'd like it packaged in something that looks authoritative, you might consider the following definitions from Merriam-Webster:

burgle: to commit robbery

rob: to take away as loot : steal

thieve: steal, rob

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I would love to live in a world where thieves feared for their lives.

This is why Texas has the lowest rate of crime in the US.

Is this irony? Judging by https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/crime-rate-... it’s not true.

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#108

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In Texas I'm surprised it's not legal to shoot a catalytic converter thief if caught in the act. That's what they used to do for cattle rustlers.

My comment may sound cliché, but I genuinely believe this, no material possession is worth more than a human life. A catalytic converter can be replaced, a life cannot.

No, your comment sounds incredibly privileged and naive.

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My comment may sound cliché, but I genuinely believe this, no material possession is worth more than a human life. A catalytic converter can be replaced, a life cannot.

If I kill you over a $2K catalytic converter, my sanity is gone. I could never sleep at night without thinking about what I have done.' A life is worth a lot more than $2k for my sanity.

Interesting dichotomy. I think a lot of people would have no problem.

I think I would consider myself in that group.

I think some lives are worth negative, and everyone is better off with them dead.

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#110

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I would love to live in a world where thieves feared for their lives.

Sounds like Texas is the place for you.

No, I think their civil forfeiture rates are quite a bit higher than average. Property taxes too. Quite a bit of fearless thievery going on in Texas.
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