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Re: China is fueling America's data center rage

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On X, allegedly. Extraordinary claims by social media networks owned by habitual liars requires extraordinary evidence. Certainly sounds like someone heavily invested in AI is attempting to craft a narrative. Show us the data and the proof. > Roughly 200 accounts from a suspected Chinese bot farm have quietly tried to influence Americans to oppose AI data centers on social media, X said Thursday night. —— > The X Saf…

what would surprise you more: a) China is fueling US data center rage, or b) China is not fueling US data center rage

A.

I do not get paid to campaign against data centers, and continue to do so at my own expense. There is no evidence “winning” an “AI race” would be meaningful against another nation state, except to those who would stand to benefit economically, either from long term cash flows or the short term capital investment bubble.

The folks ignoring the externalities of the US data center buildout in relation to the AI investment capital bubble are hopeless in this regard, I have no doubt they cannot be convinced otherwise. Like a religion, their beliefs and mental model are fixed. And so policy restricting data centers, temporary or permanent, is the only path to success. Federal, state, local, whatever can get enacted, as long as it takes until the capital bubble pops.

Re: China is fueling America's data center rage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what would surprise you more: a) China is fueling US data center rage, or b) China is not fueling US data center rage

A. I do not get paid to campaign against data centers, and continue to do so at my own expense. There is no evidence “winning” an “AI race” would be meaningful against another nation state, except to those who would stand to benefit economically, either from long term cash flows or the short term capital investment bubble. The folks ignoring the externalities of the US data center buildout in relation to the AI inves…

> There is no evidence “winning” an “AI race” would be meaningful against another nation state

Evidence or not: the US and China are racing as if the AI leader will lead the world for the next 100 or 1000 years.

I’m sure you’d agree.

Re: China is fueling America's data center rage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A. I do not get paid to campaign against data centers, and continue to do so at my own expense. There is no evidence “winning” an “AI race” would be meaningful against another nation state, except to those who would stand to benefit economically, either from long term cash flows or the short term capital investment bubble. The folks ignoring the externalities of the US data center buildout in relation to the AI inves…

> There is no evidence “winning” an “AI race” would be meaningful against another nation state Evidence or not: the US and China are racing as if the AI leader will lead the world for the next 100 or 1000 years. I’m sure you’d agree.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/myth-ai-race

Humans are irrational, from your lowly NPC all the way up to heads of state. Why did the US attack Iran? Because Netanyahu took advantage of a low functioning narcissist in a position of power. Only one example, there are many.

Re: China is fueling America's data center rage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is no evidence “winning” an “AI race” would be meaningful against another nation state Evidence or not: the US and China are racing as if the AI leader will lead the world for the next 100 or 1000 years. I’m sure you’d agree.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/myth-ai-race Humans are irrational, from your lowly NPC all the way up to heads of state. Why did the US attack Iran? Because Netanyahu took advantage of a low functioning narcissist in a position of power. Only one example, there are many.

> Humans are irrational, from your lowly NPC all the way up to heads of state. Why did the US attack Iran?

I don’t know what tangent you’ve now chosen to ride! Bon voyage!

Re: China is fueling America's data center rage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/myth-ai-race Humans are irrational, from your lowly NPC all the way up to heads of state. Why did the US attack Iran? Because Netanyahu took advantage of a low functioning narcissist in a position of power. Only one example, there are many.

> Humans are irrational, from your lowly NPC all the way up to heads of state. Why did the US attack Iran? I don’t know what tangent you’ve now chosen to ride! Bon voyage!

You asked, I answered. Sorry if you don’t like the answers, and your continued replies to my comments. That’s a choice.

Re: China is fueling America's data center rage

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> X said Thursday night. this is a news story reported as unambiguous fact, but only based on claims from a single source. and that single source has a pretty strong motivation for why they might lie or exaggerate the claims - X runs AI data centers and is facing criticism over them. it's in their interest to be able to portray that opposition as astroturfed by foreign interests.

what would surprise you more: a) China is fueling US data center rage, or b) China is not fueling US data center rage

by focusing your question on "what is China doing?" you're already buying in to the framing that this propaganda is pushing - that Chinese people are sneaky and deceitful and we should be worried about what they're doing because obviously they must be doing something aimed at fucking with the US.

Re: China is fueling America's data center rage

#18

> X said Thursday night. this is a news story reported as unambiguous fact, but only based on claims from a single source. and that single source has a pretty strong motivation for why they might lie or exaggerate the claims - X runs AI data centers and is facing criticism over them. it's in their interest to be able to portray that opposition as astroturfed by foreign interests.

what would surprise you more: a) China is fueling US data center rage, or b) China is not fueling US data center rage

Are all of China's problems caused by the US then? Or contrary to your beliefs, does people have their own home grown problems and should seek to solve them instead of looking at the other nearby tribe to blame.

So fun seeing Americans blame Russia for their issues with racism and China for their issues of bad infrastructure. As if both didn't predate the founding of those countries.

Re: China is fueling America's data center rage

#19

> X said Thursday night. this is a news story reported as unambiguous fact, but only based on claims from a single source. and that single source has a pretty strong motivation for why they might lie or exaggerate the claims - X runs AI data centers and is facing criticism over them. it's in their interest to be able to portray that opposition as astroturfed by foreign interests.

what would surprise you more: a) China is fueling US data center rage, or b) China is not fueling US data center rage

What would surprise you more:

The billionaire fascists are lying

The billionaire fascists aren’t lying

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