Debian votes to allow "responsible use of generative AI"

Post by inigyou » Sun, Aug 30, 2026, 2:53 AM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #461

inigyou wrote: post #435

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Yes, and when it isn't is a very specific very limited case that has no relation to the one being discussed. The fact that some course of action was previously mentioned in a reasoning trace, or any other context, makes it more likely to be performed. It has nothing to do with the reason that it was mentioned in the reasoning trace.

I don't think it's that limited of a case. And it's not "no relation", it was brought up as an attempt to fix/subset the original claim.

Post by xiphias2 » Sun, Aug 30, 2026, 4:34 AM UTC

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While it's true, reviews got much harder as generating code got easier, understanding it hasn't.

Why do you need to understand the code? Ask the LLM, it'll already do a better job than humans can.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Aug 30, 2026, 4:37 AM UTC

brookst wrote: post #139

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With AI people aren't reading, writing, or thinking about the code. I would not say something that helps me remember a function name is comparible.

I’m genuinely curious why it matters to make abstract moral judgments about the differences between remembering function names and deep understanding of the syntax used in a function. Why don’t we just care about results? Code quality, performance, clarity are all measurable. Why bother with philosophical positions on these?

Post by lrvick » Sun, Aug 30, 2026, 5:46 AM UTC

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We see it every day in the news with hacks that were, in every single case, completely preventable. That is had any competent security engineers been involved, with leadership willing to fund the cycles to do it right. "But we passed SOC2 and that is all our customers care about" they say, right up until they are in the headlines for a data breach directly resulting from them putting all customer data in plain text i…

Yes, indeed. But at the same time, this is about "how much worse" it will be, with LLMs. With code review being skipped. With there being so much code, no one has the time to even code review. It's a whole other level of junk. 100x worse than now. So multiple what you just said, x100.