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Re: Highest-ever ocean temperature measured as powerful El Niño forms

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Post by OgsyedIE »

wolvoleo wrote: post #95
OgsyedIE wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The optimal strategy for short term oligarchic revenue maximisation is a mixed strategy of mostly fossil fuels with some green tech. The optimal strategy for long term biosphere habitability is a mixed strategy of mostly green tech with a tiny amount of fossil fuels exclusively for those metal smelting roles where arc furnaces and biofuels are unsuitable. Investment portfolios dominated by technology that lifts every…

Less profitable doesn't mean becoming poor. Far from it. And oligarchs have kids too, don't they want them to live in a world worth living in?

"Hello, is this the Murdoch family office? I'd like to speak to your team's permanent director of assets strategy about how wonderful it would be for your income to drop by ten to fifteen percent."

You could do the same with the accounting team on retainer for the US Commerce Secretary's family portfolio, or the US Education Secretary's family portfolio, or the US Interior Secretary's family portfolio, or the head of NASA's family portfolio, or the Middle East Special Envoy's family portfolio, or the Administrator-in-Chief of the Small Business Administration's family portfolio.

These are all individuals with a net worth of over a billion dollars who each separately employ a full time accounting and financial team with its own IT and HR just to maximise family income. What's ten million a year in operating costs versus at least sextuple that in return?

Each oligarch of size is the figurehead of a corporation dedicated to number go up.

Re: Highest-ever ocean temperature measured as powerful El Niño forms

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Post by [deleted] »

wolvoleo wrote: post #72
stouset wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the narrative was that it was the blue cities that were the chaotic hellholes, specifically because of all the minorities that live there? Can you try to keep your stories straight?

That's the narrative about Europe as well. That we're somehow overrun by immigrants. Yet I can walk here in the city at night without getting robbed at gunpoint. Or any point really. Pickpockets are a pest here but that's about it.

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Re: Highest-ever ocean temperature measured as powerful El Niño forms

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Post by wk_end »

WarmWash wrote: post #78
uncomputation wrote: post #5

Maybe I am pessimistic but it seems no one cares about climate change these days. All of Los Angeles is sweltering now. Just pointing fingers and dropping individual names while the world continues to heat slowly. Any suggestions to get involved are welcome, I don’t want to be just a complainer.

The right thinks it's a hoax and the left thinks it's on corporations (not themselves) to fix it. To put it plainly, everyone wants the problem to go away without having to change anything about their lifestyle.

“Both-sides”ing this is ridiculous. Certain leftists might sometimes disproportionally blame corporations for the issue rhetorically but they aren’t broadly opposed to the kinds of taxes and regulations - on corporations or individuals - that would be needed to bring carbon emissions down.

If you insist on finding a way to criticize leftists on the climate file, a much better tack would be pointing out how some environmentalists have opposed nuclear power or densification.

Re: Highest-ever ocean temperature measured as powerful El Niño forms

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Post by tzs »

mlcrypto wrote: post #36
userbinator wrote: post #15

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since 1979 And what about the years before that?

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That's like saying coastal sea level rise is nothing to worry about in places like Florida because that whole area was at the bottom of an ocean 100 million years ago.

Re: Highest-ever ocean temperature measured as powerful El Niño forms

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Post by de6u99er »

scronkfinkle wrote: post #21

Sometimes I wonder if the anti-immigrant rhetoric that has been growing more popular is a tactical tool used by individuals who don't actually believe in it but instead have accepted that they would rather be wealthy and destroy the planet and are pricing in the consequences of that decision.

And I think the artificially created right wing shift was to enable Israel to do a lot of killing without the rest world being united to tell them to stop with this.

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Post by Noaidi »

I can’t overstate how it is. And you will need to be prepared. Be prepared for floods and just weird weather. While we humans are adaptable to these weather changes, plants and animals are not. This is going to affect feed crops for both humans and animals. So I would expect some inflation because of this.

I also want to state for those of you living in Southern California to be prepared for a possible earthquake. It’s a salton sea fills up with a lot of water quickly It could most likely trigger an earthquake.

But those are the impacts just in the United States. We might be looking at food price shocks in combination with the ongoing war in Iran.

By the way for those of you complaining about the heat in Los Angeles, it’s not really the heat. It’s the humidity. The LA basin has had record high dewpoint temperatures. That’s why it’s so uncomfortable.

How do we fix this? The only thing I can think of is a spiritual awakening where owning and doing less is more attractive than flying around in jets and building AI data centers.

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Post by parineum »

sarchertech wrote: post #61
iLemming wrote: post #6

We're getting cooked. I'm already paying 10-times more for water usage than I spend on gas, and 5-times more on electricity bills - AC's running non-stop. That's crazy, because I live in the area where you can't even walk to buy a piece of bread - we drive all the time. I fully expect for businesses very soon to operate at night. Costco, Walmart, groceries, even libraries will be working all night in places like Ariz…

> I'm already paying 10-times more for water usage than I spend on gas Are you irrigating an enormous yard?

I assume they mean natural gas

Re: Highest-ever ocean temperature measured as powerful El Niño forms

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Post by edoceo »

wolvoleo wrote: post #75
Gigachad wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do all of that, and then Elon Musk will use his hundreds of billions to install another pedofile in charge who won't give a shit about the environment.

I remember when Musk was genuinely trying to make the world better with electric cars. Now he's more worried about which toilets people use.

He could use his assets/wealth to ensure everyone on earth has a functional, hygienic toilet. Would improve QOL for many who still live with open sewer systems.

Re: Highest-ever ocean temperature measured as powerful El Niño forms

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Post by Noaidi »

uncomputation wrote: post #5

Maybe I am pessimistic but it seems no one cares about climate change these days. All of Los Angeles is sweltering now. Just pointing fingers and dropping individual names while the world continues to heat slowly. Any suggestions to get involved are welcome, I don’t want to be just a complainer.

My best advice is not to approach people with numbers and figures and all the danger, start with saying you’re concerned about the future. It’s kind of an open ended conversation starter.

The big problem is this is all driven by consumption and it’s hard for people to cut back on consumption. I don’t know how to explain to people how a simple life is much easier than the complicated life of the rich and famous they see every day on the Internet.

I don’t think there is an answer for this, I think there’s way too much propaganda on the other side of the equation. My only hope from this El Niño is that it creates such damage and disaster that it starts waking people up. I think if it affects the ranchers and farmers that will be a big plus because they are usually on the side of not believing in climate change.

What I do right now is just keep talking to people and preparing, but I’m lucky since I live in a minivan full-time. I mean, I can drive anywhere. The weather suits me.

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