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Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by inigyou »

teo_zero wrote: post #43

This is for iPhones only. Do I assume correctly that the issue is solved for Android, instead?

I don't know the specific ones, but there are android apps that replace Google Messages (dark pattern warning: enabling this makes your previous messages inaccessible as Google Messages won't let you read them unless it's your default SMS app) as well as apps that can send and receive in parallel to Google Messages. I'm not sure if there are also apps that can read your message history out of Google Messages.

Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by inigyou »

kvemkon wrote: post #53
cpuguy83 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Easy" is subjective, but tether seems like it would do this? There is also kdeconnect (don't let the "KDE" fool you).

That's what I thought at first but then discovered: > universal clipboard is synchronized over internet, it is not done trough cable connection. it uses apple continuity service, what you put into UC is uploaded into apple cloud,.. https://github.com/libimobiledevice/libimobiledevice/issues/... That's why I'm a bit confused now. > don't let the "KDE" fool you Being GNOME2-then-MATE user, it really would.

It's a project by KDE, but it doesn't require you to use the KDE desktop environment. I'm sure it integrates with that but it doesn't require it.

Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by amluto »

What’s the security story behind the iMessage integration? Why is iOS willing to send iMessage data over Bluetooth to a device that hasn’t convinced Apple that it’s a validly authenticated device signed in as the same user?

Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by zackb »

pkulak wrote: post #108

Sorry if this is obvious, but does it use the same thing OpenBubbles does? What's nice about that is that it just hooks directly into Apple's servers, so doesn't require a connection to your phone or anything.

This is a good question. No, OpenBubbles impersonates a Mac and talks to Apple's servers. Tether connects to the phone via Bluetooth and asks the iphone to send/receive messages. OpenBubbles's technique is not supported by Apple, while their Bluetooth version is.

Besides messaging it doesn't do any of the other stuff Tether does (author, im biased).

Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by forestry »

amluto wrote: post #113

What’s the security story behind the iMessage integration? Why is iOS willing to send iMessage data over Bluetooth to a device that hasn’t convinced Apple that it’s a validly authenticated device signed in as the same user?

I don’t know the full history but before CarPlay it was used to read and respond to messages using entertainment systems.

Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by dalyons »

amluto wrote: post #113

What’s the security story behind the iMessage integration? Why is iOS willing to send iMessage data over Bluetooth to a device that hasn’t convinced Apple that it’s a validly authenticated device signed in as the same user?

Cars probably. My car reads and sends iMessages via Bluetooth.

Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by ghostly_s »

aaronax wrote: post #19
SoftTalker wrote: post #10

Wasn't there another iMessage clone for Linux/Android a few years back and they got a C&D from Apple? Or maybe Apple just blocked their service?

Beeper?

Yes, I don't see why the author expects anything different to happen this time. I guess there's a new king on the throne.

Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by SahAssar »

inigyou wrote: post #107
rpdillon wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm shouting into the wind here a fair amount, but I just discovered DeltaChat and ArcaneChat. ArcaneChat is available only on Android, but DeltaChat is available on iOS and uses chatmail relays. My family has found it to be super useful and effective. I don't think it's viable to convert everybody in my social circle, but I've been very happy with the apps and attachments, notifications, and general performance. htt…

DeltaChat was much more useful when it worked with any email server and didn't need its own special kind of server. We have plenty of messengers that use their own servers, like matrix, XMPP, and simplex.

Didn't know they stopped working with regular email servers, that is a huge letdown. I'm guessing this was quite recent?

That was their one big plus and while I avoided it because of PGP, this means that it really has no upside over XMPP for me.

Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by ihjbtvjkdidie »

voakbasda wrote: post #6

Mega-kudos to the author for chipping away at the wall around Apple’s garden. I have had a iPhone for 15 years, and I have only ever been able to back it up with iTunes on windows (as I will never buy a Mac). Apple’s refusal to provide interoperability borders on criminal. I wish there was a better option.

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Re: Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

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Post by ihjbtvjkdidie »

stevehawk wrote: post #106
conception wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a fanboy I can admit rcs came with them kicking and screaming against it.

didn't it take legal threats from the EU to ultimately make it happen?

Yeah, and I’ve yet to make any use of this feature. Nice to have, but let’s not pretend RCS is that big of a deal in any way.
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