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LLMs are making me lose my savviness

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Re: LLMs are making me lose my savviness

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Using AI can open up topics you couldn't work on before.

I think you're blaming tools for what are other problems.

No carpenter ever said "I used to plane wood by hand and carve magnificent pieces, now that I have an orbital sander and power tools, the love just isn't there".

I don't buy this argument at all.

Re: LLMs are making me lose my savviness

#4

Using AI can open up topics you couldn't work on before. I think you're blaming tools for what are other problems. No carpenter ever said "I used to plane wood by hand and carve magnificent pieces, now that I have an orbital sander and power tools, the love just isn't there". I don't buy this argument at all.

The only problem with this analogy is that LLMs are not orbital sanders... Or if they are, they are orbital sanders that operate correctly only 95% of the time. The other 5% of the time they do the wrong thing and cause you to do more work and/or damage the wood (not a great analogy though).

Re: LLMs are making me lose my savviness

#5

Using AI can open up topics you couldn't work on before. I think you're blaming tools for what are other problems. No carpenter ever said "I used to plane wood by hand and carve magnificent pieces, now that I have an orbital sander and power tools, the love just isn't there". I don't buy this argument at all.

It's like every time we discuss this on hn we have to go back to basics.

Builders/makers can be roughly subdivided into two camps: some like building for the final products; others like building for the process itself.

I'm in the latter camp. OP probably too. You probably are in the former.

And that's fine. But let's just stop pretending the other side doesn't exist.

EDIT: And this goes for OP as well. They forgot a lot of "for me"s in the article.

Re: LLMs are making me lose my savviness

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Using AI can open up topics you couldn't work on before. I think you're blaming tools for what are other problems. No carpenter ever said "I used to plane wood by hand and carve magnificent pieces, now that I have an orbital sander and power tools, the love just isn't there". I don't buy this argument at all.

What are you talking about lmao, tons of carpenters have said that. The subjective experience of your craft is shaped by the tools you chose to use. For some people, and I venture this is most often true for master craftspeople, not only is the journey is more important than the destination, but the limitations of the path breed the creativity needed to even arrive at the destination.

Re: LLMs are making me lose my savviness

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post #5

Using AI can open up topics you couldn't work on before. I think you're blaming tools for what are other problems. No carpenter ever said "I used to plane wood by hand and carve magnificent pieces, now that I have an orbital sander and power tools, the love just isn't there". I don't buy this argument at all.

It's like every time we discuss this on hn we have to go back to basics. Builders/makers can be roughly subdivided into two camps: some like building for the final products; others like building for the process itself. I'm in the latter camp. OP probably too. You probably are in the former. And that's fine. But let's just stop pretending the other side doesn't exist. EDIT: And this goes for OP as well. They forgot a…

Good point

Re: LLMs are making me lose my savviness

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post #5

Using AI can open up topics you couldn't work on before. I think you're blaming tools for what are other problems. No carpenter ever said "I used to plane wood by hand and carve magnificent pieces, now that I have an orbital sander and power tools, the love just isn't there". I don't buy this argument at all.

It's like every time we discuss this on hn we have to go back to basics. Builders/makers can be roughly subdivided into two camps: some like building for the final products; others like building for the process itself. I'm in the latter camp. OP probably too. You probably are in the former. And that's fine. But let's just stop pretending the other side doesn't exist. EDIT: And this goes for OP as well. They forgot a…

You don't need the "for me", it's implicit in it being an article written by someone in a casual setting. I'd argue the issue is that we as internet blog post readers treat these think pieces with more gravitas then they deserve as a baseline.

Re: LLMs are making me lose my savviness

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Using AI can open up topics you couldn't work on before. I think you're blaming tools for what are other problems. No carpenter ever said "I used to plane wood by hand and carve magnificent pieces, now that I have an orbital sander and power tools, the love just isn't there". I don't buy this argument at all.

The example is not helpful though, probably a lot of carpenter said similar things. knowledge and attention to detail is absolutely lost with power tools and loud machines can take away a lot from the experience of working with wood. It also made the work more dangerous by instantly removing fingers and inhaling powder that was just not there before. It gave carpenters speed in return. Can you maybe give a better example?
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