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U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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post #196

In threads about the Russian war if you mention that the US has done worse your comments are removed and people complain about "whataboutism". In this thread, on the other hand, people keep bringing up that the US has done worse but those comments are upvoted and there is no mention of "whataboutism" in the entire thread.

This is a thread about bad stuff the US did, so bad stuff the US did is not off-topic here.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

#813
post #406

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Capitalism is the single most powerful destroyer of the world the world has ever seen. It remains undefeated.

Do you think people in the world, on average, have better life outcomes now or a hundred years ago?

Why is that the comparison? It should be "do you think people in the world, on average, would have better outcomes today if there wasn't capitalism?"

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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post #452
post #210

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> Since they are now "sanctioned" by the US you cannot legally donate to them even if you wanted to...*[0] There are many of us who do not live in the US, so many still can. Just not through paypal.

That's not how US sanctions work. When the US sanctions something, nobody is allowed to donate to them. Basically any country that trades with the US (most) has to follow according to their trade deals. Any bank that wants to be in SWIFT must block any transfers

I'll happily accept being sanctioned by the US. I'll wear it as a badge of honor, and then I'll start paying cash for everything.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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post #738

noblogs encourages and hosts violence and other terrorist activities. They doxx people they don't like and pass around kids schools/addressess/home addresses/names of spouses, for the sole purpose of violence. They had a flier for 'laser tag' hosted there, which was a group meet to flash laser pointers in the faces of ICE agents. I've been following this 'collective' since 2016. It's about time the US did something a…

Laser pointers are the limit for violence, huh? I have to assume you're talking about shining them in people's eyes because I don't see otherwise how that could be considered violence at all. Did you know common laser pointers are considered eye-safe because they are weak enough that your blink reflex protects your eye from damage?

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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I don't have an opinion about the PKK. My broad take is: if Europe doesn't care, there's no reason for the US to be leading a sanctions effort. I'm confident like everybody else that this is largely pretextual. All I care about is the claim that if they can do this to A/I they'll come for Signal next. That doesn't follow.

The issue is complicated. Many EU governments care, because Turkey cares, but the problem is that Turkey's position that they're terrorists is legally iffy, so a lot of European courts disagree, and this creates a schizophrenic situation where politicians hold that they're terrorist and will claim that it's the government position, while the actual government position in the courts is that they mostly aren't and that…

I mean, the PKK definitely was a terrorist organization!

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Note that democrats and republicans are both right-wing parties.

Indeed, it's absurd people still have this left/right standoff. Boggled my mind as a kid in history class that the Republicans somehow wanted to free slaves in the past but are all in on bombing the crap out of iraq. Well, guess there's no real code or manifesto to follow. It's almost like they're just saying whatever the heck they have to just to get elected, after that all bets are off.

> Boggled my mind as a kid in history class that the Republicans somehow wanted to free slaves in the past but are all in on bombing the crap out of iraq

It's Christian universalism in both cases. Your average person in the midwest--descendants of people who volunteered for the Union Army at disproportionate rates despite being fresh immigrants with no horse in the race--thought that Saddam Hussain was a comic book villain holding Iraqis hostage and that, if he was overthrown, Iraq would become a democracy like Iowa. They couldn't conceive of a society where a brutal secular dictator was a local optimum.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Have objective laws and prosecute people who break them.

How will that tell us who the fascists are?

Do you even have a definition of fascist?

Is it:

1) Right wingers

2) People who hate Jews and glorify Hitler

3) Governments who make laws requiring corporations to cooperate with the state

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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SWIFT abides by international law and local laws. Including those against processing money transfer requests for terrorist organizations like A/I.

SWIFT refused to shunt out the Brazilian banks that kept providing services to the public figures involved on the Bolsonaro trial last year.

"Brazilian banks" were never classified as Foreign Terrorist Organizations. It is a specific designation and law that comes with 20 year prison sentences.
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