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A good thing about the "you're the author regardless of the tool you used to produce the code" policy is that if a developer repeatedly submits poor quality AI generated code, one does not blame the model or the agent, one bans/terminates the developer.
What stops them from submitting PRs from another account?
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There was an increasingly scary mass of people in the industry that viewed the coding as a sort of therapeutic exercise, and would become quite obsessive about it. For those people LLMs are anathema because they take away what was the rewarding part of the job. If you care primarily about the quality of the end result, as opposed to being attached to a particular process of achieving it, then you're happy about how t…
You find it scary that people enjoy what they do? Simply caring about the end result is often not wise, ethical, or sustainable, and the quality thereof is dubious in any case, especially when you consider that the end result of developing software is never just the artifact.
And I've seen exactly this across multiple large and small organizations in multiple countries, in addition to being all over here and the red site.
This is quite distinct from enjoyment.
What does "Responsible" even mean... This will turn to shit because laziness will take over and comprehension will fall as a consequence of that. Junior will "contribute" and the seniors will eventually become too lazy to care. What's next... vibecoding airline ADA code. Save me lord jesus christ.
Quite. Of the two different common meanings, I reckon:
"The use of a generative AI tool does not diminish the contributor's responsibility for the work they submit."
will be true in the sense of "Who the hell is responsible for this mess?"
Joey Hess is unimpressed. See https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/Debian_and_the_sirens/
And thus this will all bias towards complexity and fragility..
Aside from Bun, which is owned by Anthropic, do we know of open source projects that allow AI where this has happened?
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Linus Torvalds regarding the Linux kernel is reasonably similar. He views AI/LLMs as just another tool in the development process. Think about life before and after modern IDEs that features IntelliSense circa 2000. It was night and day. It did not make programmers dumber -- it was a new tool.
Except LLMs actually are making programmers dumber. I personally know people, people whom I know for a fact were good programmers before, who have now completely stopped using their brains. When you ask them why they did something in the code, they say "I don't know, Claude did that and I didn't really question it". There was no such analogous phenomenon with IDEs.
Programmers just moved up a level , not dumber, we are now managers of a team of 'agent' programmers. The deliverable is now a functionality instead of a specific block of code
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A good thing about the "you're the author regardless of the tool you used to produce the code" policy is that if a developer repeatedly submits poor quality AI generated code, one does not blame the model or the agent, one bans/terminates the developer.
What stops them from submitting PRs from another account?
Proof of authority, essentially.
New policy boils down to "AI or not, it's still your code and you're responsible for it". I can get on board with that.
Maintainers should quiz the submitters on the code and if they fail to answer reasonably the PR is dropped with the comment: "A.I. slop" and de submitter banned.
New policy boils down to "AI or not, it's still your code and you're responsible for it". I can get on board with that.
> it's still your code I wholly agree with your comment, but is it legally "your code"? Copyright is implicit at the moment of human creation. But there isn't yet settled law on AI-assisted creation. So it might be a problem for projects to accept contributions where it's not clear who actually owns that work.
[1]: https://www.visidata.org/blog/2026/ai/#self-assessed-ai-leve...