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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by Nihilartikel »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #196
Nihilartikel wrote: post #74

I let myself get mildly excited with the last Omni release, but it turns out it (and this one) can't do the one practical thing I want - Sync generated video to provided pre-existing audio. Meanwhile, I'm happily using Minimax H3 locally on my 12Gb 4070RTX to finally finish the lip syncing to recorded dialog on my abandoned 20 year old Flash animation hobby projects.

> Minimax H3 locally on my 12Gb 4070RTX Minimax H3 is about 240Gb alone, how do you do? How much quantised is it, and how good are the results?

The int8 release is very capable and runs acceptably on consumer gpus

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by optimisticedits »

Timon3 wrote: post #205
miki123211 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a computer can never be sad or horny or have taste Neither can a record player. Nevertheless, we consume recorded music.

Surely you must be aware that record players don't compose the music they are playing?

I enjoy looking at beautiful rock formations. I am also thankful for the Sun and the Moon.

Who made those?

What's wrong with Automated Intelligence (TM) making things for me to enjoy?

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by [deleted] »

popalchemist wrote: post #240
timr wrote: post #201

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> it would attempt to ensure quality of life for your class of people (and their families) as much as possible. What is “your class of people”, and why is it threatened by what other people do with coding robots? You can try to dress it up as an intellectual argument, but at root it’s the same thing that the luddites were trying to do: defending your preferred lifestyle from technological advances. We, the ditch digg…

Your argument boils down to the idea that human life is not worth defending, even when capital actively undermines it by undercutting honest people's honest efforts to work for a living. Thank you for outing yourself as a low-empathy, capital-aligned individual who makes bad-faith arguments, I'll know not to engage you from now on.

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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by roosterIllusi0n »

nurettin wrote: post #159
lambda wrote: post #38

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I don't know that unions would necessarily negotiate for no use of AI. The SAG-AFRA deals don't preclude all use of AI; they just requre consent and negotiation in certain cases. A union doesn't give you unilateral power; it just gives you a better seat at the bargaining table. Capital pools its resources to negotiate better as a single bloc; why shouldn't labor as well?

I don't have a voice or likeness in my code. Sure, I have a very specific style in all the code I wrote for the past couple of decades, but you can achieve the same outputs with completely orthogonal styles as well. (like AoS vs SoA) so what would I even negotiate for when everything I ever thought of got distilled into neural network weights to be high-pressure sprayed to the masses?

Then do it. Hypothetically claiming the job can be automated as an excuse to pay people less is older than everyone alive today. Lying to exploit workers is nothing new.

Until you actually remove the need for a human, you have to pay full price for human labor. Which if you used AI is never really going to happen. Someone has to evaluate what AI creates to make sure it does what was asked. This trend of not prosecuting crimes conducted by AI cannot last forever. The CEO would be the only one arrestable as the CEO is the only person with decision power in the company.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by overflowy »

visarga wrote: post #107
overflowy wrote: post #66

If you're using any of these generated videos in any professional setting, I don't think I will be able to ever use your business.

Only AI code is holy, video is sinful.

Nobody says that AI code is holy, I'm pretty sure vibe coded crap by people that know nothing about writing code has the same effect.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by KptMarchewa »

jimmoores wrote: post #47
SimianSci wrote: post #30

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Just because Anthropic and OpenAI really want there to be an arms race justifying the outsized investment, doesn't mean the optimal play is to build larger, more expensive, models. The capital infusion the frontier labs have received has gotten to a size where many believe it may not be possible to recoup this investment without some very unrealistic things happening. I think it's reasonable to not completely drain o…

If the Chinese labs can compete on a shoestring budget with access to much less powerful hardware, Google should be able to compete as well. They're becoming almost irrelevant for agentic coding right now.

IDK why you'd believe they have a shoestring budget.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by Timon3 »

optimisticedits wrote: post #242
Timon3 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely you must be aware that record players don't compose the music they are playing?

I enjoy looking at beautiful rock formations. I am also thankful for the Sun and the Moon. Who made those? What's wrong with Automated Intelligence (TM) making things for me to enjoy?

Is that question supposed to be profound? Because surely someone has explained the formation of our celestial bodies to you.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by optimisticedits »

Timon3 wrote: post #247
optimisticedits wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I enjoy looking at beautiful rock formations. I am also thankful for the Sun and the Moon. Who made those? What's wrong with Automated Intelligence (TM) making things for me to enjoy?

Is that question supposed to be profound? Because surely someone has explained the formation of our celestial bodies to you.

Nope. That is what's called a rhetorical question and a pretty good one because obviously it stirred some emotion in you.

Was your question supposed to be profound? Surely someone has explained to you that record players don't compose music.

Perhaps you could be a little more charitable and less toxic here and answer my obviously non-rhetorical question: Why shouldn't I enjoy things that were created through an automatic process? Hmm?

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by DeusExMachina »

petcat wrote: post #2

I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.

Relatedly, a friend told me that graphical design gigs dried up because everyone can make event fliers and posters with AI with results that are often better than those of designers.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

bitexploder wrote: post #230
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #172

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I would agree with you on AI/LLM being more than agentic coding but at the same time, I think there's more nuance. For example, PDF's and powerpoints can be generated using agentic coding by things like https://bento.page or other ways of generating them in an agentic coding fashion. A lot of browser automation could/is also done by agentic coding. It can also help them set up and configure self hosted software with…

I get that. I use agents a lot and LLMs often reason with code. It is valuable. I just think the floor is a lot lower for general reasoning and common tasks like that. And in 6-12 months it won’t matter. Google will publish better models. The temporal distortion of how long a Sol or a Fable has existed is real. No one is suddenly missing out on some giant competitive edge because their model is a few months behind. I…

Sure I understand what you mean as well and I am not asking for SoTA models to be created by Google but more so explaining why coding is still the largest focus for many labs.

I personally wish to get more smaller models (like the recent qwen model) and other open source models like GLM 5.3 and the glm flash model.

> No one is suddenly missing out on some giant competitive edge because their model is a few months behind

Sure I can agree with that. The competitive edge might still exist but I do get the underlying sense of what you are trying to suggest.

> things other than how well your model can write code will matter more and more in 12 to 24 months.

What are the things then which you feel like could be more differentiative factor? For example, I personally think multi modal is still quite preferrable in AI models. I use GLM 5.2 and it doesn't have vision and I can certainly imagine time/use-cases where multi-modality would've helped coding and even other use cases as well. So what are some other use cases that you are thinking? Video generation models like Veo/Sora?

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