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How long until books come with TOS, then?
Many of them do already and have for decades
Can you please provide a specific example?
Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX
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Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX
#382> We are making this choice because we cannot be confident that SpaceX will use our technology within our terms of service, based on our experience with Elon Musk's companies violating contracts.
I'm surprised how clear they are about this.
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Can highly recommend Zed as an alternative, it's better than VSCode with the Codex extension as managing multiple chats is much nicer in Zed.
Zed: https://zed.dev/
Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX
#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
They played pigeon on discless videogame consoles a time or two, too. How long have you been in tech, outta curiosity? Edit: great answer.
> Edit: great answer. What do you mean by that? If you're being sassy about a downvote then I'll remind you that when you reply to a comment, that person can't downvote your reply. Also this is an account with barely any comments or points, I'm pretty sure they can't downvote at all.
I’ll remind the reader if they downvote without mentioning why, there’s no opinion really being conveyed.
Just a stub of a conversation.
I don’t care about the points. Just the chat, which seems finished.
Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX
#384Honestly, can't say I miss my Cursor subscription at all, and I'm surprised they're still a going concern. Why would I want to use a proprietary VSCode fork with an identity crisis when I can use literally any editor with any agent and have about the same experience?
The integrated review UI is super helpful, but apparently nobody reviews code anymore except me.
I use Claude Code (both Desktop and CLI) all day every day (as well as OpenCode with DeepSeek V4 among others). For non-mission-critical stuff (small internal tools, anything that doesn't touch the client and doesn't handle critical data or infra), I'm on Auto (sandboxed in the working directory). For everything else I approve every change, meaning I review every code change the model proposes. Plan mode is great to write the architecture as well, as it doesn't touch any file, doesn't write anything, and lets me iterate until the arch is perfect and the proposed high-level code (modules etc) is solid. I haven't used an editor in over 4 years, apart from writing specs.
Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX
#385Is there some kind of alternative to Cursor in these terms - fast because the code is already indexed no need to start every prompt rediscovering the world with rg - in editor/vscode review much better than relying on git diff at the very end. You can click on next button to jump there. Quick edit in place. Or a quick prompt (seconds) to fix something small - in editor completion / quick edits, when you do things by…
Lately I've been developing in Dart/Flutter. I use Android Studio but I know developers who use Antigravity and like it.
For the past three or four months it's performed very well, even the cheaper Gemini models. No serious complaints. But if you go back a year it was pretty terrible. My work style is to keep the coding agent on a short leash so YMMV.
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#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many of them do already and have for decades
Can you please provide a specific example?
Pick up nearly any published book. Turn to the ~3rd page. There will be either a whole page, or sometimes the second half of a page, dedicated to a copyright notice. Very nearly every published book I've ever seen has that identical page. This isn't a recent thing. I grabbed my copy of Diaspora by Greg Egan and opposite the table of contents is a page that starts like this:
Copyright (C) 1998, 2015 by Greg Egan
First Night Shade Books edition 2015
All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced in any manner without the express written consent of the publisher, blah blah (it felt very ironic to transcribe that bit in particular to make this point)
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Anthropic seems to have no issues: https://x.com/NotTomBrown/status/2093541294027280657?s=20
LOL, obviously Space-cursor-xAI-musk-imperial-holdings-inc is providing them compute. They either _can't_ cut them off, or they know not to bite the hand that feeds them.
You meant X Holdings...
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On the one hand, yes; on the other hand, so much of the training data comes from scraping the web that it feels wrong for them to do what they deny others the right to do. On the third hand, the settlement Anthropic famously had to pay was for copyright infringement because they didn't actually have the right to even access some of the training data they used, so I can see how this might be compatible with the law. O…
Companies that didn't give away all their content for free to anyone have actually denied AI companies from training on all their data without paying a fee. Reddit, Associated Press, etc. For those who chose to give it all away, the ship has sailed, but they did choose to give it away for free to anyone so they can't complain that they succeeded.
At what point did the authors whose books showed up in the ai companies training data sets “give it all away” as you claim?
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Correct. It's killing the competition. Which is what you should do if you want to run a successful business.
Then don't be pretentious and frame it as a morality statement. Just call it what it is.
Framing your competition killing as morality is also something you should do to be successful.
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My website’s TOS says not to use it to train AI without permission, yet my website is in the training set of all the big models. So… my TOS doesn’t matter, but theirs does?
Yes - yours is just some optional text nobody reads or understands and is probably not legally required to adhere to. Theirs is a contract signed by their customer who they know did understand it.
Accessing the site may already mean that you agree to TOS. Also if you don’t see an explicit copyright terms on some text on the internet it doesn’t mean that it’s public domain. Same as checking a checkbox. Text being small and somewhere is not an excuse for a corporation to steal and sell other people’s work.