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Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by Quarrelsome »

germandiago wrote: post #200
cornholio wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ironic how AI companies are re-inventing their own form of privately enforced copyright, lobby the government to ban foreign competitors that don't respect it etc., all while spending the last 5 years fighting tooth and nail against the copyright of the training material they're using. If you can take any book and turn it into a model, because it's "transformative enough", and "AI learns just like a person does"…

I am pretty sure that the goal of these companies at the end is ruling more than what governments can. Just look at the pattern... they collude, they provide to them whatever is needed, and at some point, if this is not true yet, they will be the ones who will tell them what to do or not, bc you know how humans are, right... blackmailing, mess up the business or shames of people, etc. It is just a matter of time. The…

"I am pretty sure" .... CONSPIRACY THEORY. Stop willing worst case scenarios and take your meds.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by DustinBrett »

redox99 wrote: post #9

It's always been clear to me that Cursor's business model of reselling others' APIs had its days numbered. Not necessarily because the providers would pull the plug, but because you wouldn't be able to compete with subsidized plans. Cursor is already kind of useless for third party models unless you're willing to spend thousands of dollars. It's only worth it if you're going to use mostly grok/composer.

Lot of people will to spend that much. Works quite well, very useful.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by DustinBrett »

bentt wrote: post #7

While this isn't great for users it seems like a pretty standard circling of the wagons in preparation for the next phase in the battle for frontier AI dominance. Ironically, as a Cursor and Claude subscriber, but not an OpenAI subscriber, this will push me back to Anthropic. I don't feel good about giving OpenAI money directly, but I've found switching to GPT 5.6 Sol now and again in Cursor to be useful. Now I'll pr…

Same, this will make me drop Sol from my options, not Cursor.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by reaperducer »

oblio wrote: post #264
halcy wrote: post #222

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They don’t need to make you or me, people who actually make software, believe that every anthropic employee is actually and in fact, right now, a „10x software factory controlling thousands of agents“, they need to make investors and CEOs believe, and then hope that making that true is possible and that they can keep the fiction up long enough and get enough money and infra built out to make it actually true.

Like Uber replaced all drivers with self driving cars [1] in its 20 years of operation? Just because I want to paint the moon pink, doesn't mean it's feasible. [1] If anything, Waymo has a higher chance and global Waymo adoption is probably 20 years into the future, at least.

Like Uber replaced all drivers with self driving cars [1] in its 20 years of operation?

They're trying. I see Uber robotaxis almost daily.†

I haven't bothered to see if they're still in training or actually taking passengers.

† https://lucidmotors.com/stories/lucid-nuro-uber-partner

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by sejje »

ben_w wrote: post #265
inigyou wrote: post #140

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Remind me to set up public nitter so I can post a nitter link to whatever this is, and then I can read it.

I suspect it's better for mental health to be lazy and take this as an opportunity to detox from tweet-sized interactions in general.

This whole website is nothing but tweet-sized interactions.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by internet2000 »

jorvi wrote: post #270
germandiago wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am pretty sure that the goal of these companies at the end is ruling more than what governments can. Just look at the pattern... they collude, they provide to them whatever is needed, and at some point, if this is not true yet, they will be the ones who will tell them what to do or not, bc you know how humans are, right... blackmailing, mess up the business or shames of people, etc. It is just a matter of time. The…

Did we not watch every single supposedly powerful US tech CEO immediately drop in supplication and kiss Trump's ring as soon as he became president? And when Jack Ma got mouthy, Xi locked him in a basement for 3 months and then kept him in exile for another 5 years. So much for the all-powerful cabal.

Big difference between giving the president a gold trinket to curry favor and getting disappeared by the Communists.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by oh_no »

aspirin wrote: post #104
redox99 wrote: post #9

It's always been clear to me that Cursor's business model of reselling others' APIs had its days numbered. Not necessarily because the providers would pull the plug, but because you wouldn't be able to compete with subsidized plans. Cursor is already kind of useless for third party models unless you're willing to spend thousands of dollars. It's only worth it if you're going to use mostly grok/composer.

Enterprise customers are not getting the subsidized subscriptions so for them the point is moot.

cursor adds $0.25/M to your token bill for 3rd party services. sounds small but it's insanely big on cached inputs, which are an insanely high % of use

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by Jcampuzano2 »

brightball wrote: post #88
rgbrenner wrote: post #32

Anthropic already banned xAI for very similar ToS violations earlier this year: https://x.com/kyliebytes/status/2009686466746822731?s=46 So this is OpenAI following suit after Musk admitted to distilling their models. This was bound to happen once Cursor decided to sell itself to a competing model provider. It'll be interesting to see if Anthropic applies their ban to Cursor, or if that datacenter deal they signed wi…

Anthropic seems to have no issues: https://x.com/NotTomBrown/status/2093541294027280657?s=20

Because anthropic is beholden to SpaceX for the time being due to their compute restraints.

Its actually very tone deaf to even pipe up and say anything about this given they did this already to Windsurf themselves, and they previously banned x.ai employees as well from using their models for basically the same thing Elon admitted they were doing with OpenAI.

I'm surprised they decided to say anything at all given their rocky past. Its the pinnacle of being a hypocrite.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by oh_no »

bentt wrote: post #7

While this isn't great for users it seems like a pretty standard circling of the wagons in preparation for the next phase in the battle for frontier AI dominance. Ironically, as a Cursor and Claude subscriber, but not an OpenAI subscriber, this will push me back to Anthropic. I don't feel good about giving OpenAI money directly, but I've found switching to GPT 5.6 Sol now and again in Cursor to be useful. Now I'll pr…

you dont like giving openai money but you're fine with spacex? not criticizing, just trying to understand.
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