I feel that this must be logical error related to ad hominem and fallacy of composition, instead of this is bad because bad people like it, this is good because bad people dislike it.
That said I am generally happy with GDPR.
You Know GDPR Is Good Based on Who Hates It
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#52Tobacco control advocates sometimes referred to a "scream test": the more vigorously the industry opposed a measure, the more likely that the measure was effective.
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#53I hate the banners, and I am a major privacy advocate. The web has gotten so much uglier as a result of GDPR.
My employer's site has no banners, since we decided not to use any tracking. We measure our success based on enquiries, orders and so on, not the number of hits to the website.
so you don't track your bounce rate or effectiveness of your advertising?
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#54Cookie banners are made annoying on purpose. This has nothing to do with GDPR itself.
The entities forced to show them would rather not, and thus make it as annoying as possible for you. They then use this to weaken support for the GDPR.
Shame on the people making stuff like this.
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#55Given the relatively recent European experience (Nazis and Communists, among others) there is a reasonable argument for data privacy even if it hampers economic growth. However... > If the rules are so terrible, why did nobody choose market exit? Because major players don't particularly mind such rules; the public doesn't care about their data all that much and everything will tick on as usual with some nag banners a…
>The problem is the major players aren't going to be European because it is no longer legal for EU companies to get started by doing what the US companies did to get started
essentially finding ways around the law and its spirit to screw people over and degrade the quality of life for the citizens to one's own benefit. Your edit pointing to Uber never working is pretty much making the case here.
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#56there is a whole campaign online about hating on the EU & its regulations.
I made a physical product and upon learning European regulations, I quickly decided I was going to spend 0 time designing it for Europe. If I made millions, sure, pay someone to figure it out. But I was not going to waste design time early on. I can't imagine how much this affects small business in Europe.
These are just general barriers to international trade, though. Small manufacturers in Europe may likewise decide not to design for US regulations.
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#57Banner gets a lot of attention because of the never-ending annoyance it's causing. It's like being surprised that someone would care about something so small as a little rock in their shoe. Yeah, you care about these little things. It is also definitely true that the regulations are largely written by people who do not understand the tech they're regulating and its potential. Again, not some weird controversial point…
> It is also definitely true that the regulations are largely written by people who do not understand the tech
I kind of switched side on this after the silicon valley made it clear that they are in the king making business, and the kings they want are of the fascistic and not benevolent kind. Also, a big aspect of the "tech culture" (beyond the silicon valley itself) has been about focussing on what could be done rather than whether it should, and this "restraint" must come from "outside the tech bubble".
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#58GDPR is good for corporations because it legitimises data trade. Population trained to agree to cookies now also agree to data processing just to get the banner go away and corporations have legal basis to process and sell the data.
It is all working as intended.
The tell tale is bodies like ICO being powerless when it comes to enforcing it. You've been screwed by big corporation? ICO will shrug.
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#59there is a whole campaign online about hating on the EU & its regulations.
There are many powerful actors in whose interests it is to spread FUD about the EU, and none of those entities have the average citizen’s best interests in mind.
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#60As someone who, until recently, worked in a company heavily impacted by GDPR, it’s a good thing. It forced the mindset away from “just do whatever is easiest,” to considering how it affects where our customer’s data is stored. Was it a PITA? Sometimes, yes. Was it stressful having a conversation with Legal to determine whether we had a PII leak under the GDPR terms that would mean we had to reach out to customers? De…
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