GDPR has one single goal - to allow aggregated presumably anonymous data markets. Period. Everything else surrounding it is diversion in a plain sight.
Sure buddy. And it's all orchestrated by the Rothschilds, right?
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#32Note that GDPR did not mandate the cookie banners we see everywhere today. Those are a form of malicious compliance. Their goal is not to conform to regulation but to undermine the regulation itself in the eyes of the public.
Even the EU's own government websites are polluted with the same cookie banners. Are they "maliciously compliant" with their own regulations? Are they trying to "undermine the regulation itself"? https://european-union.europa.eu/
Yes. Basically the shop they used to make their website are shit, with shit incentives.
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#33Banner gets a lot of attention because of the never-ending annoyance it's causing. It's like being surprised that someone would care about something so small as a little rock in their shoe. Yeah, you care about these little things.
It is also definitely true that the regulations are largely written by people who do not understand the tech they're regulating and its potential. Again, not some weird controversial point.
With every next leak where my full name, PESEL (that's like SSN here in Poland), email, phone number become semi-public and... nothing happens, I am becoming more convinced that we are annoying ourselves for nothing. Just degrading our digital lives and generating tons of legal digital text no one reads for no benefit of anyone involved.
At the same time, the very people who pretend to defend my privacy, oppose Tor, Signal, anonymity online, and other tools that definitely benefit me.
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#34Cookie banners are already obsolete in the age of AI. Who is wasting time defending it? People don't even care to hate GDPR these days, it's an anacrhonistic regulation from a different era that some EUrocrats like to boast about
> Who is wasting time defending it? I do! It’s one of my favorite regulation ever. I find it very well researched and designed, in a world where it often feels we cannot change the status quo it’s really impressive that a community of countries as messy as the EU has been able to design, pass, and actually implemented such a complex and citizen-centered set of rules
Often complaints about it boil down to either not understanding what’s in it, or annoyances that would be solved if sites stopped doing all this shady stuff. “We value your data, our 1644 partners…” yeah you definitely have a value you assign to my data.
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#35there is a whole campaign online about hating on the EU & its regulations.
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#36I hate the banners, and I am a major privacy advocate. The web has gotten so much uglier as a result of GDPR.
The cookie banner isn't actually specified in gdpr, it was just how everyone else tried to build the solution to the problem at the last minute. I remember thinking "ok once this hits an actual web spec, we should see this built into browsers, and sent as headers or something" Nope
It's a case of industry malicious compliance
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#37I hate the banners, and I am a major privacy advocate. The web has gotten so much uglier as a result of GDPR.
Shaka, when the walls fell. I hate the banners and the ugliness too but they are designed precisely to do that, and adtech maneuvers to ensure the hate is directed at the wrong source - the lawmakers instead of the people doing all the spying. GDPR 1.1 should address all that - no legitimate interest exclusion of any kind, ONE SINGLE CLICK to reject all, no witholding service at ANY degree unless consent is granted,…
I also read the post, and have handled multiple GPDR adjacent migrations in Asia.
The end result is still the same, even with GDPR 1.1, another interstitial barrier between the user and whatever site they are trying to reach imposed by a poorly planned attempt to protect user privacy while simultaneously enabling the predatory companies who violate said privacy to continue business as usual.
The cookie banner will remain on the vast majority of sites, and users will spam click past it as they have been trained to do.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Browsers already had a way to consent to cookies, since the invention of cookies themselves. But the EU didn't consider that _real_ consent.
Treating the browser's "disable cookies" feature as a way to reject consent is not real consent . That cripples many legitimate use cases outright; it's neither accessible nor understandable by normal users; it's a technical defence measure, not a way to consciously reject contractual consent. In contrast, the GDPR demands that you properly ask for consent if you want to process somebody's personal information, infor…
Correct.. the gdpr isn't the anti cookie law. It's the data privacy law.
If it wasn't cookies it would be something else.
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#39I hate the banners, and I am a major privacy advocate. The web has gotten so much uglier as a result of GDPR.
The cookie banner isn't actually specified in gdpr, it was just how everyone else tried to build the solution to the problem at the last minute. I remember thinking "ok once this hits an actual web spec, we should see this built into browsers, and sent as headers or something" Nope
i was thinking the same thing. it could be like an actual element of your page.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
They do come from the ePrivacy directive but; > if you want to store data on the user's browser you do need to get their consent, hence the cookie banner. No - you need consent for storing cookies that are not “strictly necessary”. I can implement an offline app that stores data in cookies without consent. The current usage of the banner is overly litigious US focused simplification combined with malicious compliance…
No cookie is strictly necessary, you can encode it all into request tokens in the URL, so this is a meaningless exception.
The law is not about cookies specifically, it's technology neutral. The law doesn't even include the word cookie anywhere.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...