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Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by tsunamifury »

germandiago wrote: post #200
cornholio wrote: post #167

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It's ironic how AI companies are re-inventing their own form of privately enforced copyright, lobby the government to ban foreign competitors that don't respect it etc., all while spending the last 5 years fighting tooth and nail against the copyright of the training material they're using. If you can take any book and turn it into a model, because it's "transformative enough", and "AI learns just like a person does"…

I am pretty sure that the goal of these companies at the end is ruling more than what governments can. Just look at the pattern... they collude, they provide to them whatever is needed, and at some point, if this is not true yet, they will be the ones who will tell them what to do or not, bc you know how humans are, right... blackmailing, mess up the business or shames of people, etc. It is just a matter of time. The…

Pretty sure?

Guy this was openly stated more than a decade and half ago by all the current oligarchs

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by adastra22 »

pkulak wrote: post #161
ifwinterco wrote: post #155

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Claude code is a decent harness but then you have to use Anthropic models, which are good but no longer the best bang for the buck. In particular Haiku 4.5 is rubbish, Anthropic don’t have anything in the cheap/fast part of the market. For people fortunate enough to still be on a subscription instead of per-token billing this is less relevant, but their time will come. The cursor model is quite nice because it allows…

I think the point is that CC was the first general use, terminal based harness. I think. Now you can use PI, or OpenCode, or whatever, and use any model you like. Now, I’m no expert, because I was late to the game and have only ever used Pi. But I guess Cursor is some product that’s tied to your IDE? If so, then yeah. That’s just too restrictive. I still love my IDE, but I don’t want it to be my harness too.

Claude Code was very late to the party.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

natdempk wrote: post #101
dakolli wrote: post #94

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Couldn't you just download cursor, not even pay for any account and hook up an Anthropic api key and get that functionality? I dont know how cursor works. Everytime ive tried to use, its super buggy and has memory leaks that make my very quite PC sound like a jet engine.

Cursor charges the “Cursor Token Rate” for BYOK https://cursor.com/docs/models-and-pricing#cursor-token-rate

No. Its is not for bring your own key.

It is for 3rd party models (which you get double the amount of your sub price as usage).

Of course they wont charge you extra for BYOK. how would they???

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by jackjeff »

lloeki wrote: post #203
jackjeff wrote: post #194

Is there some kind of alternative to Cursor in these terms - fast because the code is already indexed no need to start every prompt rediscovering the world with rg - in editor/vscode review much better than relying on git diff at the very end. You can click on next button to jump there. Quick edit in place. Or a quick prompt (seconds) to fix something small - in editor completion / quick edits, when you do things by…

Seems you're looking for an editor with agent, not just a agent, so something like Zed?

I do like Zed as an editor and I keep trying it out

but the the review what the AI did by jumping directly into the file with accept/reject/go next/next file with the ability to edit in place was nowhere near as good in zed vs cursor last I checked.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by citrin_ru »

lygaret wrote: post #181
consumer451 wrote: post #64

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Well, they will stop releasing their latest models, and just attempt to eat all software themselves. Otherwise, it will be competitors distilling, and the government getting upset. It's hard for me to see a different future. And, this really sucks. If this thesis is true, I wonder what the final YC batch number might be.

I believe if this was true, we'd already be seeing vibed stuff succeeding everywhere, and pricing out incumbents, but I guess I'm not seeing this? Like at all? Even if they have Astra or whatever completely to themselves, how do they deal with the -product- side? Or sales, or account management? They've been focused on juicing model's coding capabilities, but it's absolutely -not- "gen ai" enough to be doing the whol…

Just guessing - companies which not outsource development to likes of infosys will outsource to OpenAI instead.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by kian »

jtwaleson wrote: post #168
raincole wrote: post #103

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I've never seen a product blow another product out of the water so hard as Claude Code did to Cursor.

The tide is turning though. I was using the old non agent view in cursor every day for about a year when I built my startup with it. Then Claude Code blew it out of the water. But since two month or so I much prefer Codex and Cursor with the agent view. However, what I see cooking at Cursor is way more promising than the others. Things like full system understanding, their own forge, multi-repo support. I'd put them…

what do you mean by 'full system understanding', here? And don't you think that claude and openai are using their own forge as well?

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by barrenko »

jackjeff wrote: post #194

Is there some kind of alternative to Cursor in these terms - fast because the code is already indexed no need to start every prompt rediscovering the world with rg - in editor/vscode review much better than relying on git diff at the very end. You can click on next button to jump there. Quick edit in place. Or a quick prompt (seconds) to fix something small - in editor completion / quick edits, when you do things by…

May be opencode2 in the near future. Sample (not affiliated) ~ 1. download opencode2 2. settings > tabs > vertical 3. add worktree setup to agents.md 4. use /diff to review changes 5. use commands for commit, sync and push

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by jackjeff »

thatscot27 wrote: post #206
jackjeff wrote: post #194

Is there some kind of alternative to Cursor in these terms - fast because the code is already indexed no need to start every prompt rediscovering the world with rg - in editor/vscode review much better than relying on git diff at the very end. You can click on next button to jump there. Quick edit in place. Or a quick prompt (seconds) to fix something small - in editor completion / quick edits, when you do things by…

Codex

I use codex all the time. It’s inferior to cursor for the two reasons mentioned. It rediscovers the world with rg (no indexing). Wall of diff at the end.

The GUI slightly better than Claude. And it’s a million times cheaper than Claude.

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