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Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by mcphage »

SurviveTheJive wrote: post #15

You can’t discuss kings without discussing the rich history of Europe with thousands of years of oral and written history long predating the Sumerians and even the ancient Proto Indo-European peoples to which European language and culture is often erroneously attributed. The dark ages were anything but dark. Ancient Europe was anything but primitive. And yet it’s so rarely discussed in the mainstream.

> and even the ancient Proto Indo-European peoples to which European language … is often erroneously attributed

Would you mind being a little clearer about what it is you’re saying here?

Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by mapontosevenths »

quickthrowman wrote: post #9

I wonder why the Sumerians deviated on the last two lengths from the rule they had on the first six. The first six reign lengths (and the total sum of all eight reign lengths) are all n * 60 * 60 , where n is an integer. The last two are not, but they could’ve been. If instead you use 18000 years and 21600 years instead of 18600 and 21000, they fit the same formula as the other numbers and the sum remains the same. T…

Maybe they just transposed a few digits? It happens. Somebody should try swapping them in and see if the pattern fits better.

Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by dismalaf »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #16
SurviveTheJive wrote: post #15

You can’t discuss kings without discussing the rich history of Europe with thousands of years of oral and written history long predating the Sumerians and even the ancient Proto Indo-European peoples to which European language and culture is often erroneously attributed. The dark ages were anything but dark. Ancient Europe was anything but primitive. And yet it’s so rarely discussed in the mainstream.

Can you give us a few pointers or links?

Not the OP but there's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_symbols

Some people also interpret some symbols on mammoth tusks going back 50k years as writing but that's a stretch IMO.

Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by mapontosevenths »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #22
quickthrowman wrote: post #9

I wonder why the Sumerians deviated on the last two lengths from the rule they had on the first six. The first six reign lengths (and the total sum of all eight reign lengths) are all n * 60 * 60 , where n is an integer. The last two are not, but they could’ve been. If instead you use 18000 years and 21600 years instead of 18600 and 21000, they fit the same formula as the other numbers and the sum remains the same. T…

Maybe they just transposed a few digits? It happens. Somebody should try swapping them in and see if the pattern fits better.

I ran it through the provided program and the alignment was worse if anything.

Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by [deleted] »

quuxplusone wrote: post #12

> One speculative interpretation treats these numbers as a distorted memory of prehistory. Under this hypothesis, the reign boundaries encode real climate shifts... "One theory" implies that someone somewhere has ever claimed this. But has anyone? TFA gives no source for the claim, AFAICT (although I skimmed a bit).

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Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by Krssst »

steveBK123 wrote: post #11
magneticnorth wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish there was a no tech version of hackers news for this type of content only I used to think the same thing, but I've come to appreciate exposure to highly-technical content (outside my wheelhouse) that also "gratifies ones intellectual curiosity." I don't necessarily deeply care about the merits of GUIs and TUIs, but once it's pointed out, I can see the importance of being keyboard driven ( https://news.ycombi…

To be more specific, I think most of us would like to have a "not the current tech thing" page. So a front page that isn't 50-90% LLM content in 2026. In 2020 that would be crypto. Etc

https://www.unslop.news/ has been a breeze of fresh air to avoid all the LLM news. I don't care so much about them but there's so much LLM-adjacent content that it requires actual effort to find the non-LLM stuff.

Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by stodor89 »

dismalaf wrote: post #23
pavel_lishin wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give us a few pointers or links?

Not the OP but there's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_symbols Some people also interpret some symbols on mammoth tusks going back 50k years as writing but that's a stretch IMO.

Interpreting Vinca symbols as a full-blown writing system is also widely considered a stretch.

Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by jcranmer »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #22
quickthrowman wrote: post #9

I wonder why the Sumerians deviated on the last two lengths from the rule they had on the first six. The first six reign lengths (and the total sum of all eight reign lengths) are all n * 60 * 60 , where n is an integer. The last two are not, but they could’ve been. If instead you use 18000 years and 21600 years instead of 18600 and 21000, they fit the same formula as the other numbers and the sum remains the same. T…

Maybe they just transposed a few digits? It happens. Somebody should try swapping them in and see if the pattern fits better.

The Sumerians used a sexagesimal notation system; the two lengths would be 5.10.0 and 5.50.0 (which together add up to 11.0.0, FWIW), while all of the other king lengths are 8.0.0, 10.0.0, or 12.0.0.

Re: Does the Sumerian King List Align with Paleoclimate Events?

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Post by poulpy123 »

The idea that a list of kings from 4000 years ago would encodé global climate events for over 240.000 years is completely ludicrous. Astrology has a better grounding on reality than this idea.

And the fact that all lengths are multiple of 600, is even more telling knowing that they counted in base 60

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