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Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by ChannelFence »

this is a pretty clean test of whether people were buying cursor or just using it for convenient access to whichever model was flavor of the week.

i work in qa so i'm naturally wary of adding another critical dependency to a development workflow, if the model you actually want can just disappear because two vendor change ownership or start argueing then the wrapper has to be really good on its own.

cursors harness and its own models may be good enough that users stay, and if they do cursor has a moat at least. if everyone follows the openai models out the door, it will just become a polished ui.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by xtracto »

redox99 wrote: post #9

It's always been clear to me that Cursor's business model of reselling others' APIs had its days numbered. Not necessarily because the providers would pull the plug, but because you wouldn't be able to compete with subsidized plans. Cursor is already kind of useless for third party models unless you're willing to spend thousands of dollars. It's only worth it if you're going to use mostly grok/composer.

I just told my boss to cancel my cursor subscription. My flow is basically Claude/opencode + kyde/vscode for por changes review

Shit, for most things, ive got a dev agent that reads change requests from a GDoc and communicates through email with me. I can develop in my mobile

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by mattnewton »

closetheloopdev wrote: post #11

> As AI capabilities advance, we also have a new level of accountability to ensure our upcoming model, Astra, is being used in accordance with our terms. This move seems to protect Astra against distillation. I wonder whether Astra will be released before or after 11/12.

Before, but they say that they’re also not going to provide astra to cursor subscribers

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by repeekad »

nab wrote: post #37
redox99 wrote: post #9

It's always been clear to me that Cursor's business model of reselling others' APIs had its days numbered. Not necessarily because the providers would pull the plug, but because you wouldn't be able to compete with subsidized plans. Cursor is already kind of useless for third party models unless you're willing to spend thousands of dollars. It's only worth it if you're going to use mostly grok/composer.

Agreed. Wrapping token spend is great for pumping your revenue numbers (congrats to them on $60B!), but doesn’t seem sustainable over the long term. Big reason we built https://boxes.dev around the model harnesses (Codex + Claude Code), so you can bring your own subscriptions.

Surely the days of being able to “bring your own subscription” to a third party platform are also numbered?

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by ChannelFence »

rgbrenner wrote: post #32

Anthropic already banned xAI for very similar ToS violations earlier this year: https://x.com/kyliebytes/status/2009686466746822731?s=46 So this is OpenAI following suit after Musk admitted to distilling their models. This was bound to happen once Cursor decided to sell itself to a competing model provider. It'll be interesting to see if Anthropic applies their ban to Cursor, or if that datacenter deal they signed wi…

i'll be surprised if anthropic doesnt follow. cursors biggest advantage has been giving users a polished wrapper around whichever frontier model they prefer

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by nab »

repeekad wrote: post #54
nab wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Wrapping token spend is great for pumping your revenue numbers (congrats to them on $60B!), but doesn’t seem sustainable over the long term. Big reason we built https://boxes.dev around the model harnesses (Codex + Claude Code), so you can bring your own subscriptions.

Surely the days of being able to “bring your own subscription” to a third party platform are also numbered?

I’m not so sure… Claude backtracked on this when they tried it

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by ralusek »

demibabs wrote: post #3

Wow, I don’t use cursor but that seems pretty bad for them. Is there a way to work around this (like using your OpenAI limits directly?)

It's basically not going to affect them at all. I don't know a single person that uses OpenAI models via Cursor. Saw another comment say it was 5%.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by ralusek »

iJohnDoe wrote: post #35

I guess I’m on the right track. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49428835 If Claude pulls away from Cursor as well then Cursor is basically done.

Cursor is like one of the least economical ways to use Claude and OpenAI, virtually nobody does it. You use Cursor for their autocomplete/composer + grok. For using Claude and Codex, you get immeasurably more bang for your buck just using them directly.
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