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Post by OCASMv2 »

badsectoracula wrote: post #19
exiguus wrote: post #4

There is also an article on we will free us [1] if you want to dive deeper into that rabbit hole. [1] https://www.wewillfreeus.org/the-server-called-paranoia-defe...

The article is quite long, but these two give a brief idea of what is going on: a) According to that article, what it seems they are about: > Its manifesto describes the project in explicitly political terms. A/I is antifascist, anti-capitalist and antimilitarist. It promotes free software, encryption, pseudonymity and the independent circulation of knowledge and cultural work. It reserves its limited, volunteer-run…

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Post by sicktriple »

feshbach wrote: post #461
gaudystead wrote: post #424

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Regarding the honeypot allegations, I'm guessing they're referring to the connections between 4chan's founder, Christopher Poole, aka "moot", and Jeffrey Epstein: https://www.ms.now/opinion/jeffrey-epstein-4chan-chris-poole

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MSNBC is far left? Next you'll tell me Joe Biden is a Maoist.

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Post by henearkr »

feshbach wrote: post #456
pyth0 wrote: post #361

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Antifa is not one organization, that's ridiculous. It would be like claiming that "Anarchists" are a terrorist organization.

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Ridiculous. I am anti fascist, and I have never heard of any of what you are talking about.

I oppose fascism.

That does not magically infuse into my brain mysterious connections to groups of people, nor instantaneous knowledge and mastery of tactics from nazi groups...

That would be actually kind of cool, but no, sorry to disappoint you.

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Post by Arainach »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #459
culi wrote: post #439

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> We support individuals, collectives, communities and groups whose political and social activities fit within this worldview and who share with us some fundamental principles: anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-militarism. On top of that, one has to share our basic attitude towards money and the capitalistic world: a deep feeling of uneasyness and unrest. I don't see anything wrong with that. They make 0 m…

> I don't see anything wrong with that. Did I say there was something wrong with that? No. Let me repeat what I said: "In this case the US State Department is accurately reciting what this organization says about itself openly". Do you disagree with this statement?

Opposing fascism and racism is not "radical left". It's centrism.

The State Department's words are not A/I's.

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Post by vorpalhex »

tediousgraffit1 wrote: post #352
vorpalhex wrote: post #332

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I notice people always respond with "but the US does this too!" and never actual incidents. No, I'm not going to just high five your vague head nod at wrong doing you can't even describe. Seriously, sit down, make a list of incidents, including weighing the outcome of those incidents. If it's a case where an officer or a soldier did something wrong, list what happened after (court, punishment, cleared of wrongdoing,…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre you would do well to note that this page links directly to an entire wikipedia entry for 'US War Crimes': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

Everything I mentioned was from the last year. My Lai was more than 50 years ago and the perpetrator was arrested, tried and convicted.

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Post by doginasuit »

Avicebron wrote: post #3

I clicked around a bit, read the manifesto, I still have no idea what these people do. I guess they claim to have been around for a while, but a bunch of the links don't work and the manifesto has definitely been updated to reflect 2026 opinions. What is this?

For what it's worth, the people I have known personally who talk like this don't actually do very much except talk like this. Then again, they have never been sanctioned by a government.

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Post by antonvs »

rayiner wrote: post #414
antonvs wrote: post #307

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It’s a conspiracy theory in that there’s no evidence of funding, support, or even cooperation in the particular case of “24”. The 24 pilot was filmed before 9/11. After 9/11, the show had to be modified because reality has become uncomfortably close to it. That included delaying the premiere and removing a scene involving an exploding passenger aircraft. The Washington Post reported on a trend of shows about counter-…

Torturing bad guys isn’t “right wing” lol. The second season came out my freshman year of college, and about a dozen of us in our dorm watched it religiously every week. I’m pretty sure only two of us were republicans. The show had universal appeal (to men). There’s like a dozen Bollywood knock offs of the show.

That’s quite the Overton window you’re living with.

> Georgia

Ah yes, I see.

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Post by Arainach »

OCASMv2 wrote: post #511
badsectoracula wrote: post #19

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The article is quite long, but these two give a brief idea of what is going on: a) According to that article, what it seems they are about: > Its manifesto describes the project in explicitly political terms. A/I is antifascist, anti-capitalist and antimilitarist. It promotes free software, encryption, pseudonymity and the independent circulation of knowledge and cultural work. It reserves its limited, volunteer-run…

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Not at all. The Republican party loves to throw both labels at anything it doesn't like, but most people who are against fascism are not communists.

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Post by jibal »

NDlurker wrote: post #509
jibal wrote: post #488

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George Herbert Walker Bush and Richard Nixon were both in Dallas on November 22, 1963, the day that Kennedy was assassinated. What should rational people make of that? Nothing, other than that people have very poor statistical intuitions ... see the work of Kahneman and Tversky.

Bush being there likely wasn't a coincidence.

Really? What is the actual probability attached to that word "likely", and what is the data is support of a Bayesian calculation to reach that conclusion?

I refer again to rational people. Bush was president of the Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company and chairman of the Harris County Republican Party, and was meeting with local Texans to build support for his run for the U.S. Senate in 1964. His presence had nothing to do with Kennedy. At the moment of the assassination he was in Tyler, 100 miles away.

Even if, contrary to all reason, Bush was involved in the assassination of Kennedy, there would not have been any reason for him to personally be in Dallas that day.

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