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Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by jwitthuhn » Sat, Aug 29, 2026, 12:12 AM UTC

pirates wrote: post #93

jwitthuhn wrote: post #92

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I'm quite curious about that claim that pitch correction is not generative AI. It literally generates a complete output waveform.

Isn’t autotune something that you give an input and params and get the same output every time? I don’t think it’s generative in the sense that people mean when they say generative AI. If I’m right, is that different from a paint splatter brush in Photoshop? It “literally generates” a splatter without you having to place every drop.

Generative AI like LLMs and image diffusion models are perfectly capable of being deterministic. I have seen it repeated a lot that they aren't and that simply isn't true.

edit: to answer the second part, photoshop brushes are absolutely generative but I'm not sure they are AI.

Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Sat, Aug 29, 2026, 12:17 AM UTC

jwitthuhn wrote: post #101

pirates wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t autotune something that you give an input and params and get the same output every time? I don’t think it’s generative in the sense that people mean when they say generative AI. If I’m right, is that different from a paint splatter brush in Photoshop? It “literally generates” a splatter without you having to place every drop.

Generative AI like LLMs and image diffusion models are perfectly capable of being deterministic. I have seen it repeated a lot that they aren't and that simply isn't true. edit: to answer the second part, photoshop brushes are absolutely generative but I'm not sure they are AI.

It’s totally possible, but would seriously need to not use much parallelism, and definitely not going to use the GPU much. So it would be really slow, but possible.

Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by AlexeyBelov » Sat, Aug 29, 2026, 5:06 AM UTC

jwitthuhn wrote: post #100

tantalor wrote: post #99

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A 3x3 box blur also "generates" a new image. That's not what people mean by "generative AI" and I think you know it.

I think people don't know what they mean and I have yet to receive a coherent response when asking such people what they mean. As best as I can tell "Generative AI" is a common shorthand for "AI I don't like"

Can you really not think of a generative AI service or a well known model from the top of your head? Ask someone in your circle (who's into this scene) what they consider to be generative AI.