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Re: Programming Your Culture

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I imagine that the fine at Andreesen Horowitz isn't so much a financial incentive but instead signaling and shock value that respecting entrepreneurs is important, in the same way that book budgets at startups aren't so much a financial incentive but signaling how the company treats engineers. There's also the matter of who's imposing the fine. For the day care, imposing a fine negated the social incentive not to be…

I was late to a VC meeting today. Because I am a dumbass and did not plan my travel well. Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? I apologized when I arrived (and e-mailed as I could beforehand) because it's rude to be late for a meeting with people you are in business with, regardless of whatever monetary incentives someone wants to arbitrarily hang on that. If you need a fine system to make that work, I'd argu…

> Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that?

If you had been made aware, in advance, that there was a fine, then sure, you should be fined for being tardy.

Are you pattern-matching on "VC", "lateness", "fine", and your own negative feelings regarding having been late to a VC meeting?

Your reaction to this story (VC firm trying to show that it values potential investment targets' time) is like someone worrying that, since a pizzeria has a policy of not charging customers for a pizza if it's delivered late, you're going to have to provide the delivery person with a free sandwich if you don't get to the door quickly enough after he rings the bell.

Re: Programming Your Culture

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Sure not. Unless the fine is high enough to hurt financially the person that is infringing the rules, it will have the opposite effect. It'll allow a false sense of entitlement; "I'm paying for it, so it's now ok to arrive late to pick up my child. It's my right" .

I'm pretty sure that $10/minute isn't hurting anyone working at a VC firm enough to matter. Maybe $10k/minute? A fine that was high enough to cause financial harm would surely have other unanticipated effects.

What do people working at VC firms (as opposed to partners at VC firms) make? I don't think anywhere near enough to make paying a couple of hundred dollars per week just for showing up late negligible.

E.g, http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/salary/venture-capital-compen... lists 'analysts' and 'associates' at between 80 and 250k. Not the kind of money to light cigars with 20 dollar bills (certainly not in NYC).

Re: Programming Your Culture

#23
Culture just happens. If you go out of your way to foster some kind of fake "culture" you're only doing your business a disservice. The company I worked for with the best culture did nothing to try to create a "culture".

Re: Programming Your Culture

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post #21

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I was late to a VC meeting today. Because I am a dumbass and did not plan my travel well. Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? I apologized when I arrived (and e-mailed as I could beforehand) because it's rude to be late for a meeting with people you are in business with, regardless of whatever monetary incentives someone wants to arbitrarily hang on that. If you need a fine system to make that work, I'd argu…

> Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? If you had been made aware, in advance, that there was a fine, then sure, you should be fined for being tardy. Are you pattern-matching on "VC", "lateness", "fine", and your own negative feelings regarding having been late to a VC meeting? Your reaction to this story (VC firm trying to show that it values potential investment targets' time) is like someone worrying that,…

The idea that it's all about the monetary penalty to get the "right" behavior is not just the wrong incentive, as the research shows, but also reinforcing negative stereotypes of VCs.

It's a bad idea.

Re: Programming Your Culture

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was late to a VC meeting today. Because I am a dumbass and did not plan my travel well. Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? I apologized when I arrived (and e-mailed as I could beforehand) because it's rude to be late for a meeting with people you are in business with, regardless of whatever monetary incentives someone wants to arbitrarily hang on that. If you need a fine system to make that work, I'd argu…

> Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? If you had been made aware, in advance, that there was a fine, then sure, you should be fined for being tardy. Are you pattern-matching on "VC", "lateness", "fine", and your own negative feelings regarding having been late to a VC meeting? Your reaction to this story (VC firm trying to show that it values potential investment targets' time) is like someone worrying that,…

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Re: Programming Your Culture

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was late to a VC meeting today. Because I am a dumbass and did not plan my travel well. Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? I apologized when I arrived (and e-mailed as I could beforehand) because it's rude to be late for a meeting with people you are in business with, regardless of whatever monetary incentives someone wants to arbitrarily hang on that. If you need a fine system to make that work, I'd argu…

> Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? If you had been made aware, in advance, that there was a fine, then sure, you should be fined for being tardy. Are you pattern-matching on "VC", "lateness", "fine", and your own negative feelings regarding having been late to a VC meeting? Your reaction to this story (VC firm trying to show that it values potential investment targets' time) is like someone worrying that,…

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Re: Programming Your Culture

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was late to a VC meeting today. Because I am a dumbass and did not plan my travel well. Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? I apologized when I arrived (and e-mailed as I could beforehand) because it's rude to be late for a meeting with people you are in business with, regardless of whatever monetary incentives someone wants to arbitrarily hang on that. If you need a fine system to make that work, I'd argu…

> Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? If you had been made aware, in advance, that there was a fine, then sure, you should be fined for being tardy. Are you pattern-matching on "VC", "lateness", "fine", and your own negative feelings regarding having been late to a VC meeting? Your reaction to this story (VC firm trying to show that it values potential investment targets' time) is like someone worrying that,…

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Re: Programming Your Culture

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was late to a VC meeting today. Because I am a dumbass and did not plan my travel well. Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? I apologized when I arrived (and e-mailed as I could beforehand) because it's rude to be late for a meeting with people you are in business with, regardless of whatever monetary incentives someone wants to arbitrarily hang on that. If you need a fine system to make that work, I'd argu…

> Should I, or anyone else, be fined for that? If you had been made aware, in advance, that there was a fine, then sure, you should be fined for being tardy. Are you pattern-matching on "VC", "lateness", "fine", and your own negative feelings regarding having been late to a VC meeting? Your reaction to this story (VC firm trying to show that it values potential investment targets' time) is like someone worrying that,…

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Re: Programming Your Culture

#29

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Sure not. Unless the fine is high enough to hurt financially the person that is infringing the rules, it will have the opposite effect. It'll allow a false sense of entitlement; "I'm paying for it, so it's now ok to arrive late to pick up my child. It's my right" .

I'm pretty sure that $10/minute isn't hurting anyone working at a VC firm enough to matter. Maybe $10k/minute? A fine that was high enough to cause financial harm would surely have other unanticipated effects.

The key point is to cause pain.

A fine high enough to hurt financially the person breaking the rules is one option (that's what governments usually do). Other good option is public embarrassment. I used the $1 fine for people late to meetings, but we also counted the number of times each one was fined, so there was an extra incentive to avoid.

Re: Programming Your Culture

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that $10/minute isn't hurting anyone working at a VC firm enough to matter. Maybe $10k/minute? A fine that was high enough to cause financial harm would surely have other unanticipated effects.

The key point is to cause pain . A fine high enough to hurt financially the person breaking the rules is one option (that's what governments usually do). Other good option is public embarrassment. I used the $1 fine for people late to meetings, but we also counted the number of times each one was fined, so there was an extra incentive to avoid.

Be careful the 'fine' (preventative) does not become a 'charge' (entitlement).

"I've paid my dollar, so what if I'm late?" (As mentioned in that pop-economics book about the parents and the nursery.)

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