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Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need

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Re: Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it is still widely used.

Define widely used; I probably haven’t used it once in the last 15 years and have heard it maybe twice. Source: lifelong German speaker

Maybe you're working with the wrong people? It's uncommon among younger people, but I frequently hear craftsmen say it (who are over 50).

Re: Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need

#32

Value is now only _extracted_. Place the acquired good into the press and smash it until all but the faintest essence remains among the mash. The squeezings are bottled and saved to pay for future _extractions_. Companies like Valve can continue largely unshittificated because they are private. Once that is no longer the case, all our game rentals will be squozen away from us.

Gabe Newell has an $11bn net worth so he hasn't exactly been not squeezing.

Re: Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need

#33
post #18

What about "worseprovement"

As a German, I might not have thought of that but would absolutely use it to translate Verschlimmbesserung. Does it sound "normal" enough to native English speakers?

The sibling post's "disimprovement" sounds more natural and has parallel form with pre-existing broadly accepted English words like "disincentive" and "disinfect".

Re: Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need

#36
German here. A "Verschlimmbesserung" is something that makes one part better and another part worse. If it only makes things worse you don't need a German word for it, you can just call it worse.

For things that were intended good, but ended up bad, there's an English idiom: the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

Re: Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need

#38

>attempted improvement that only makes things worse Unless I'm mistaken, Russian has a wonderful idiom for this: "bear job"

It‘s „bear service“, and context is slightly different. You do bear service to someone, and Verschlimmbesserung is on something. Both signal intent to do something good, but doing bear service is an act of screwing up while doing that, no prior condition required, and Verschlimmbesserung is the outcome of such attempt applied to something that was ok before.

Re: Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need

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post #36

German here. A "Verschlimmbesserung" is something that makes one part better and another part worse. If it only makes things worse you don't need a German word for it, you can just call it worse. For things that were intended good, but ended up bad, there's an English idiom: the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

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Re: Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need

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post #36

German here. A "Verschlimmbesserung" is something that makes one part better and another part worse. If it only makes things worse you don't need a German word for it, you can just call it worse. For things that were intended good, but ended up bad, there's an English idiom: the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

My understanding is that a Verschlimmbesserung stems from a genuine intent to improve something, even though it ultimately has the opposite effect.
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