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U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by [deleted] »

jpcfl wrote: post #69
Avicebron wrote: post #3

I clicked around a bit, read the manifesto, I still have no idea what these people do. I guess they claim to have been around for a while, but a bunch of the links don't work and the manifesto has definitely been updated to reflect 2026 opinions. What is this?

It is intentionally vague. From the State Dept: > The A/I Collective exclusively offers its tools and services to radical left-wing actors and manually vets all potential users for ideological affinity before granting them access to its infrastructure.

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Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by hexator »

32aGh wrote: post #88
hexator wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any indication or proof that they are providing services to PKK? Equating supporting protest organizers in the west with supporting an armed terrorist group is laughable and dangerous.

If you search for "noblogs pkk" you find a handful, literally less than 10, of pro PKK links, all of which have been taken down. Could have been a false flag to discredit antifa. What happened to safe harbor?

Having "pro-PKK views" (or for other groups designated as terrorists for that matter) is not against the law in the US as that is a first amendment right (as long as that speech is not support).

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Post by cdrnsf »

This administration is on a witch hunt for anything they can identify as "antifa" when no such central organization insists. Instead it's being used as an over broad label to attack organized opposition to it's broadly unpopular policy agenda.

(If you're opposed to antifascists what does that make you?)

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by einpoklum »

Links to the actual announcements of sanctions:

* https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

* https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...

And - the list of people that were originally put in this category when G.W. Bush issued this executive order has 29 people/organizations: Usama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Al Qaida, and various affiliated/related organizations.

So, yesterday it was Bin-Laden, today it is some Italian left-wing tech guys, and tomorrow it might well be you or me. Get ready to be branded a terrorist at some point.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by vlyan »

foul wrote: post #134
iamnothere wrote: post #45

Everyone’s missing the big picture here which is that this targeting of infrastructure providers as “terrorists” is unprecedented and concerning: https://decode39.com/16319/autistici-inventati-case-sets-a-n... If a radical group sets up shop on I2P, are I2P users and devs now terrorists? This is a problem. What about Monero users/devs? Veilid? Tox? Signal?

It is not unprecedented, but a lot of fools lauded moves like this when these kind of instruments were used with barely a legal net around them against islamic terrorism or cybercrime. I'm not crying for no Al-Qaeda or 8chan, mind you. In this very year UN and ICJ officials have been targeted in a similar fashion though. When the pax americana ends like this, I don't know what else is needed for EU and Asia to raise…

8chan's /pol/ wasn't any different than 4chan's. the reason why the 4 is tolerated but the 8 got axed is that 4 is a honeypot and 8 wasn't.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by einpoklum »

cdrnsf wrote: post #273

This administration is on a witch hunt for anything they can identify as "antifa" when no such central organization insists. Instead it's being used as an over broad label to attack organized opposition to it's broadly unpopular policy agenda. (If you're opposed to antifascists what does that make you?)

> when no such central organization insists

No any such organization exists. It is a movement, and a description one can describe one's self or actions: "anti-fascist".

But of course, their logic for sanctioning-by-association would mean that they all - Trump, Bessent, Rubio etc. - with their innumerable contacts with "violent terrorist groups and regimes" everywhere around the world, and just themselves really - should have been sanctioned, arrested, tried, or just disposed of like the US does with so many it dislikes.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by wat10000 »

kakacik wrote: post #214
OKRainbowKid wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So anti-fascism ist deemed an extreme movement by the US government? What does that say about them?

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FYI the comic character saying “Yet you participate in society! Curious!” is meant to be ridiculed, not emulated.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by etc-hosts »

bsian wrote: post #196

In threads about the Russian war if you mention that the US has done worse your comments are removed and people complain about "whataboutism". In this thread, on the other hand, people keep bringing up that the US has done worse but those comments are upvoted and there is no mention of "whataboutism" in the entire thread.

This is getting too big to ignore and is leaking into mainstream popular culture.

In the most popular streaming show atm (new season of Reacher), a main plot point is CIA and State Department and Green Berets involvement in a village massacre in Indonesia in the 90s (in the land of the tv show), this is of course a reference to the CIA and State Department indirectly murdering 1 million Indonesians 1965-1966.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by etc-hosts »

32ikU wrote: post #26
aeon_ai wrote: post #6

https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10076 - Direct link to the sanctions declaration. The actual Treasury Announce here - https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/ "The Autistici Inventati is an Italy-based far-left organization that provides a range of technological tools and services to violent left-wing extremist groups, including website hosting on foreign servers, encrypted email accounts, chat an…

How quaint. The MEK (Iranian People's Mudjahheddin) were designated as a terrorist organization but collected money in EU streets all the time. Now they are useful against Khamenei. The US would also like to use the equivalent of the PKK in the large Kurdish part of Iran against Khamenei. Nothing to say of using the PKK rebranding of SDF in Syria as well as receiving "global terrorist" Al Jolani in the White House.

US cynically removed them from the Terrorists list in 2012.

MEK is probably just 300 really old guys now, they have strict rules against marrying outside the org.

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