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U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by nonethewiser »

mindslight wrote: post #99
nonethewiser wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you articulate this more? Are you saying the first amendment gives A/I a constitutional right not to be sanctioned?

Yes, we are talking about a communications service , one specifically focusing on political speech . " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. " Email, chat, websites, blogs - these are a…

There is the absolutely perfect Supreme Court case that ruled against your theory.

Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/561/1

There is a law (18 U.S.C. § 2339B) that says you cant knowingly provide material support for designated foreign terrorist organizations. A law firm wanted to provide financial support and legal services to some, including the PKK (the same group A/I was accused of helping). They argued the federal law violated their first amendment rights.

The court concludes that the first amendment doesn't protect your ability to provide material support including services and communication equipment and the law still stands today.

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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Post by beej71 »

nonethewiser wrote: post #67
kraken_cult wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it just as likely they are using facebook, instagram, and tiktok?

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And political neutrality isn't going to save anyone. Political alignment with the US government is what they're after.

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Post by OKRainbowKid »

badsectoracula wrote: post #19
exiguus wrote: post #4

There is also an article on we will free us [1] if you want to dive deeper into that rabbit hole. [1] https://www.wewillfreeus.org/the-server-called-paranoia-defe...

The article is quite long, but these two give a brief idea of what is going on: a) According to that article, what it seems they are about: > Its manifesto describes the project in explicitly political terms. A/I is antifascist, anti-capitalist and antimilitarist. It promotes free software, encryption, pseudonymity and the independent circulation of knowledge and cultural work. It reserves its limited, volunteer-run…

So anti-fascism ist deemed an extreme movement by the US government? What does that say about them?

Re: U.S. sanctions against the A/I Collective

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hamburga wrote: post #62

As far as I can tell, there were no credible criminal charges against this group, except that they are effective organizers on the opposite side of political spectrum. In the White House’s deranged logic, this qualifies them to be officially designated as domestic terrorists [1]. Can we all agree that this is an assault on the First Amendment? [1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/desi...

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