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“It works better in the app”

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Re: “It works better in the app”

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At this point the barrier for me to install an app is pretty high. If you're going to needlessly gate certain functions behind an app that work on a desktop browser (or could work in-browser), then I just won't use those functions. If by extension that degrades the value I get from your site, then I just won't use the site, and I won't be contributing to ADU stats you promote to advertisers. Every single company has…

Indeed, I've no interest in native apps to do something that can be done in a web app and if you don't let me do it in a web app I'll bounce and either find someone who can or do without unless there is a seriously compelling use case (I'm not that dogmatic). As a result the only native apps I use on my phone are Kindle, Authy and Firefox because I trust Firefox to prevent apps doing a lot of the sketchy shit locally…

A real native app practically always has better performance than web apps. And your data is on your machine. And it can integrate with the operating system. And you can do work offline. And performance saves battery.

A web app is almost never better.

Re: “It works better in the app”

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post #51

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I think the web did fine. People can't pin a web app because Apple made it difficult for them to do exactly that.

Burger menu -> share -> add to home screen is difficult? How do you pin a web app in Android then?

There’s a whole API that the browser provides to prompt users to install:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/befo...

Re: “It works better in the app”

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The no-Google-calendar-sharing-on-mobile is an absolute classic. I have personally seen multiple clumps of people huddled around a phone trying to figure out how to share a calendar with each other - fruitlessly until I butted in, because normal people don't know about desktop mode and even if they did would have no reason to think it necessary.

(If you didn't read the post, it doesn't work in the app either. It only works on "desktop.")

Re: “It works better in the app”

#97
post #20

It’s a shame the web was so slow to adapt to this new mobile world. When it all started things like offline capabilities were very difficult to do on the web and native development felt necessary. These days the web can actually do a lot… but it’s too late. People expect to find something in the App Store, pinning a web site to their Home Screen is just not something they know they can do. So a lot of people waste an…

I miss the mobile-versions of websites for low-bandwidth connections (the ones that started with "m."). They were lightning fast, even on slow networks, and were laser-focused on top-of-funnel user activities. Facebook's implementation was extremely solid (when I used them). Messaging worked as well until they gated that behind full Facebook.

Re: “It works better in the app”

#98
post #59

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The flip side is: I have an Audioguide app with reams of fancy of AI features. Even a basic non-AI one is we use GPS in the background to auto-trigger when you approach certain checkpoints on your tour, and we don't want you staring or constantly manually fiddling with the phone when you're on a tour in a neighborhood. This is all stuff just not possible with the web app I get it, "I'm just traveling, why do I need t…

location services are available to web browsers on pretty much all consumer platforms

Not persistently, the user has to constantly bring the phone up and re-enable, which as you can imagine gets really annoying really quickly.

Re: “It works better in the app”

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flip side is: I have an Audioguide app with reams of fancy of AI features. Even a basic non-AI one is we use GPS in the background to auto-trigger when you approach certain checkpoints on your tour, and we don't want you staring or constantly manually fiddling with the phone when you're on a tour in a neighborhood. This is all stuff just not possible with the web app I get it, "I'm just traveling, why do I need t…

Sounds like gratuitous over-use of technology. Please just put placards on your exhibits, then I can take as long ( or as quickly ) as I need to digest the info. People can then use their phone to translate into other languages, if needed.

No need to litigate this again, digital audioguides are now 20-25 year old technology and very popular.

Re: “It works better in the app”

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The author said it perself, "the greatest minds of our generation" working at Google, so those jagged edges are surely by design, and it's the rational most efficient solution in a economy of attention where the line between the product and the user is blurred.

In some cases it's just because the userbase using the web on their phone instead of the app is incredibly small and it's not worth funding feature parity. It can be difficult to distinguish this case from more hostile takes like reddit and Twitter.

In this case the feature wasn't available on the mobile app, either.
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