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Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

estearum wrote: post #161
digitaltrees wrote: post #154

When this administration is done we need to amend the constitution to hold politicians legally and financially responsible for intentionally lying and intentionally breaking the law. This was obviously illegal on its face and yet there is no consequence to pushing the norms.

I don't think that'd require a Constitutional amendment, would it?

Literally the purpose of the House of Representatives, if I understand correctly.

So it requires a critical mass of very local reps to care about executive accountability. Which is exactly why Project 2025 / Trumpism plays the endorsement game so heavily. Fealty.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by dgellow »

londons_explore wrote: post #136

Presumably this is going to lead to anthropic getting a big payday from the US gov for all the time their flagship product was banned and all the users they lost due to it

The government would just not pay, similar to what trump tried with his rape verdict

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Post by Tangurena2 »

noir_lord wrote: post #139
whalesalad wrote: post #138

Unlawful means absolutely nothing these days.

It's the Gish gallop applied to a legal/legislative system - it just can't keep up with the sheer volume of cases that would need to be brought to curtail even the worst of it and that's assuming that if/when it eventually gets in front of the supreme court that that "august" body actually does curtail it.

Steve Bannon, who advised the 45 administration, called that tactic "flood the zone with shit".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_the_zone

https://archive.ph/BfuVs

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by Tangurena2 »

blitzar wrote: post #144
small_model wrote: post #142

"When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is"

Clinton, being a lawyer, asked for a definition of "sex". The definition given to him did not include oral sex. When a lawyer asks you for a definition of a word, then you are getting screwed.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by Zigurd »

digitaltrees wrote: post #154

When this administration is done we need to amend the constitution to hold politicians legally and financially responsible for intentionally lying and intentionally breaking the law. This was obviously illegal on its face and yet there is no consequence to pushing the norms.

We already have the tools. The problem is that the corrupt oligarchs have the money that is considered equivalent to speech. Start with fixing that problem and other problems become solvable.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by fabian2k »

digitaltrees wrote: post #154

When this administration is done we need to amend the constitution to hold politicians legally and financially responsible for intentionally lying and intentionally breaking the law. This was obviously illegal on its face and yet there is no consequence to pushing the norms.

You just need the rule of law for that. It helps to not elect blatantly corrupt people as president.
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