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Re: Show HN: SubSmith – Turn your own videos into language-learning material

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> I'd find a video I wanted to learn from, hear a useful sentence, and then realise that turning that sentence into something I could study later was both time consuming and draining at times. How does not study a sentence? You mean memorizing it later?

By study I mean adding to Anki for example as a flashcard

Re: Show HN: SubSmith – Turn your own videos into language-learning material

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This is really cool idea. But don't you think taking material and saving specific sentences may add unnecessary mental pressure to the process of learning which is said is ideal when the student is in a playful mood?

True, I would say though from my personal experience there is a serious study element inherent to learning languages to a high level too. So it depends on what the user wants, there are gamified apps like Duolingo but the efficacy of it has been questioned over the years

Re: Show HN: SubSmith – Turn your own videos into language-learning material

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I've been somewhat studying Japanese for... quite a few years now. I have yet to find the "ideal" method, but I know it must be mobile (I'm continually migrating away from sitting in front of my laptop) and something I can randomly get in and out of at any time (anything taking up dedicated batches of time eventually gets dropped or barely touched).

Yeah I can relate haha, that is one of the things I questioned, if a desktop app was the best format for this app. I do feel the majority of people are drifting more towards mobile tbh so may have to make a companion app lol

Re: Show HN: SubSmith – Turn your own videos into language-learning material

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I've been learning Japanese for just over a year now, and its a community that might have the highest concentration of amazing free learning apps with sentence mining capabilities, many of which do things very similarly to what you're building. Have you tried some of these? asbplayer Manatan Yomine Anki Miner AnimeCards Nagare These are just for video, there are other similar solutions for games, manga and ebooks, an…

In my experience, apps for learning japanese is a hugely saturated niche because the venn diagram of people learning japanese and people who like building software is a circle

Yeah, all in one apps are now getting built every other week

Re: Show HN: SubSmith – Turn your own videos into language-learning material

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I agree the Youtube ones are not very good, I am not sure what they have implemented behind the scenes for it. However this uses the Whisper Large model which is quite a bit better than the Youtube auto generated ones. Only catch is you need to have the video on disk and wait a bit longer lol

Youtube is very bad, but I have honestly not yet seen anyone implement this well on any platform, which indicates to me that it's not a solved problem. Very open to being proven wrong here though - do you have examples of Whisper Large in use in a large consumable sample?

It's not fully solved, there are still errors but its improved a lot the past few years especially compared to Youtube. The best approximation is the Whisper models atm as far as I have seen. There is a write up here on hugging face which talks more about the models and the benchmarks against it.

https://huggingface.co/openai/whisper-large-v3

Re: Show HN: SubSmith – Turn your own videos into language-learning material

#39

I've been building something similar but targeted at bringing content that interests you to your level: https://katarineko.com . I've been learning Japanese as well and the content at my level is boring while the content I'm interested in is a wall.

How does this product compare to the methodology of dreaming.com?

It's a similar methodology, my problem with things like this is that they do give you comprehensible input, but it's very boring. I don't engage at all. The idea of Katarineko is to create comprehensible input from content that interests you. Say you want to watch Spirited Away but it's a bit too advanced for you at the moment, we create stories at your level for Spirited Away to teach you the core words you need to achieve your target comprehension level.
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