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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by miki123211 »

computerliker wrote: post #116
jackdoe wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

their point is while the 'group' wins, the rest of the world loses. localized gains, distributed loss.

as an art enjoyer, i do not feel that having less media written, drawn, or voiced by a computer is a loss. a computer can never be sad or horny or have taste. it can only make product. i also think artists should be paid living wages with good working conditions. thank you SAG-AFTRA, WGA, IATSE, AEMI and Teamsters.

> a computer can never be sad or horny or have taste

Neither can a record player. Nevertheless, we consume recorded music.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by Melatonic »

earthnail wrote: post #5
petcat wrote: post #2

I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.

Work that doesn’t have a personal brand involved is basically dead. Arbitrary voice acting? Dead. It’s brutal for these people. The creative industry was always hard, but this is just plain brutal.

People pretty consistently vote with their wallet and are not excited to pay and consume media made by AI.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by bayindirh »

nurettin wrote: post #159
lambda wrote: post #38

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I don't know that unions would necessarily negotiate for no use of AI. The SAG-AFRA deals don't preclude all use of AI; they just requre consent and negotiation in certain cases. A union doesn't give you unilateral power; it just gives you a better seat at the bargaining table. Capital pools its resources to negotiate better as a single bloc; why shouldn't labor as well?

I don't have a voice or likeness in my code. Sure, I have a very specific style in all the code I wrote for the past couple of decades, but you can achieve the same outputs with completely orthogonal styles as well. (like AoS vs SoA) so what would I even negotiate for when everything I ever thought of got distilled into neural network weights to be high-pressure sprayed to the masses?

> so what would I even negotiate for when everything I ever thought of got distilled into neural network weights to be high-pressure sprayed to the masses?

For your unique approach to the problems at hand. Yes, 90% of the code written is CRUD, but when it's not, how it's solved matters.

This is why we have grown with id Software games. They solved the problems, created new paths and methods for limited hardware for their time.

This is why we praised DivX and XviD back in the day. They solved problems again which are caused by the limits of the computers.

The way one solves problems matter, makes one valuable. This is why we do research and create new ways to do things.

In short, your creativity is being sold/sprayed to masses.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by Melatonic »

oblio wrote: post #73
moscoe wrote: post #22

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Sounds like a perfect application of AI. Some jobs should be automated.

Ok, let's go the other way round. Which jobs do you think should not be automated?

Probably the ones we collectively value as human and are willing to pay for (in either our time or money or both).

And jobs where quality is paramount and or there is greater chance of risk / bodily harm

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by deadlast2 »

For me it's kind of weird right it's like no one can see the bigger picture. All technology's going to be eaten by AI so companies like Google, Microsoft, Meta ... are middle men in an industry that's disappearing. No one's really going to use a search engine when a chat bot can do a better job. No one is going to pay for software when the AI can do the whole process better at a proper command. All technology and the companies in it are essentially horses and the related roles in a time of cars. That whole slice of the economy is at best going to reduce year on year eventually to disappear. No replacement AI is it.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by [deleted] »

simonw wrote: post #24

Interesting that OpenAI abandoned Sora entirely but Google are continuing to invest heavily in their own video generation. Maybe because they see video generation as key to developing "world models"?

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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by Melatonic »

WarmWash wrote: post #94
mattlondon wrote: post #87

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YouTube. And video ads. Previously when making video ads you'd need to actually create the video. Actors, cameramen, editors - you name it. Now a new video ads is just a prompt away, directly inside the ad-spend web UI too no doubt. People say Google have lost and that they're having their lunch eaten by anthropic, but I am not so sure...

Google owns 15% of Anthropic, Claude trains and runs on TPUs, and Google cloud is backlogged with demand from both OAI and Anthropic. Google is selling shovels, leasing mines, buy stakes in "competitors" and doing it's own exploration/mining. When you look at the full picture, it kinda doesn't even look like Gemini matters that much to them overall.

I don't think it does. They could probably throw a shitload of compute at Gemini and have something more competitive. Instead they seem focused on the actual innovative research which I think will pay off long term.

Gemma 4 I am way more impressed by than whatever the top ranking model is

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by iamniels »

epolanski wrote: post #117
mianos wrote: post #112

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I have a pro subscription, I think they have just given up. Likely because when they test their new models against the other frontier models they are so bad, they just pull it back. This leads them to try and innovate in other areas where there is currently less competition so they can compete. Not a bad play.

You can tell you live in the HN/tech bubble. In the real world out there, Google and Microsoft are absolutely dominating enterprise customers. Every single non-tech office worker I know is writing Gemini "gems" (sort of claude prompts/skills) or prompting Copilot to help drafting board meeting notes, insurance contracts updates that reflect changes in regulations, make quick loan feasibility assessments before passin…

This.

Google is an advertising company with an enterprise SaaS branch. I bet they have chosen to focus on running the most efficient "everybody" model instead of running a heavy model for coders.

When using Gemini for other tasks than coding, it is actually pretty good. It grounds well with Google search and gives mostly correct, well written answers to many niche questions.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by Melatonic »

peter_d_sherman wrote: post #154

>"Draft videos more efficiently in 360p Generate lightweight previews in 360p resolution up to 60% faster and at a third of the cost compared to Omni 1.1’s standard 720p resolution. This is helpful for rapid prototyping, storyboard iteration, and quick rendering in developer platforms." This is a great idea, to have a low-resolution mode for additional speed to create previews, do test runs, create rapid prototypes,…

Surprised they don't have something in between a video generation and image generation model (literally like storyboarding) which still took into account physics and world knowledge. You could probably (relatively cheaply) generate decently high resolution storyboards and then have something to directly feed a video model at the end.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by [deleted] »

simonw wrote: post #24

Interesting that OpenAI abandoned Sora entirely but Google are continuing to invest heavily in their own video generation. Maybe because they see video generation as key to developing "world models"?

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