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Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. "Ship it! A practical guide to successful software projects" by Jared Richardson, Will Gwaltney, Jr. has had a few printings since 2005.

I think another classic reference: Jobs saying to the original Macintosh team - "real artists ship"!

To be clear, I am referring to software and shipping as a developer who has finished, more or less, their app. Not that I am against its use, I just never really heard that word being used before, and now I hear it all the time. Thus, what the real issue I have with it is, is because my brain has associated its use with a torrent of crap, ie. AI slop. I hear the word used, and I already have bad feeling about it. And dialed in even further, my issue is not with AI just because, it's simply the association I have of this technology taking something that many of us spent real blood, sweat, and tears earning the right to represent, to it now being automated, and represented (badly) by novices with no respect for the spirit of it all. But, this is not a new or unique sentiment nor are my grievances with it. All hope is not lost, though. I know I need to adapt, and I know that like the world, I need to change too. But no one ever said I have to like it :-)

Context aside, I still gotta stand by the 17x indicator or see something that deflates that finding, and if I do see that, I guess all of the results are in question then? Based on the specific use case mentioned at the beginning there, coupled with personal experience (I totally could just be more sheltered than I give myself credit for), and the 17x, I gotta disagree with you guys and say that the finding of the link above is accurate in my experience being the *

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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I’d love to see something similar that analyses the writing style, not just the vocabulary. For instance, Claude since 4.8 (I think) loves run on tidily wrapped-up sentences that include “, and”, “, because”, etc. I suspect if you were to analyse the same text you’d see that increase substantially as Anthropic rolled out new models as well.

An example, from some workslop I was sent yesterday

"this is the most valuable row we own, because it sets the ceiling on everything we build"

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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While the post is specific to Claude, interestingly I found the same terms and language patterns appear noticeably more often in recent Open AI conversations as well. Also in the same timeframe as for the Claude models. And I can see two reasons for that. One being that one company is training on the models of the other company, but I highly doubt that because of the apparent similar appearance without noticeable del…

> words are being played back to the model in the next turn and thus supporting the model shape its own thoughts and stay on course.

Why is that exactly?

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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I'm surprised vacuous is not on the list. The word selection and way of writing has taken the joy out of using Claude.

Im surprised by "provenance." I see it all the time. Except I've brought this up before and have never had it corroborated. I'm starting to think it's just my Claude.

My Claude too, have no fear. You are not the only one.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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I find Claude language often hard to process and having to wade through these words can be draining. Embarrassingly, I’ve recently caught myself using them in conversations! Do all models have the their own jargon?

I swear claude took a detour recently, its written output has been nearly incomprehensible to me. At first i thought i was getting AI-brained and just lost critical thinking but as i dug into response after response its was just the most obtuse language to explain what was going on. Really mentally taxing to wade through it all day.

It’s bad enough that I’ve told Claude never to write cleverly and never to use metaphors. Opus 5 mostly ignores those kinds of instructions, annoyingly enough.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Interesting response from Claude, when I attempted to reduce the "load-bearing" in its responses: I added to my global prompt: - Orwell's first rule: never use a metaphor you're used to seeing in print. "Load-bearing", "the crux", "first-class citizen" signal insight instead of showing it. Name the specific mechanism when I asked what it thought of the change, its reply was: The Orwell bullet fights my own system pro…

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Did you just use metaphor to show insight of the subject instead of exposing the real mechanism?

What would be the reason for the model to respond this? Can you explain for us plebs that don't have intimate knowledge of LLM internal architecture?

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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While the post is specific to Claude, interestingly I found the same terms and language patterns appear noticeably more often in recent Open AI conversations as well. Also in the same timeframe as for the Claude models. And I can see two reasons for that. One being that one company is training on the models of the other company, but I highly doubt that because of the apparent similar appearance without noticeable del…

> words are being played back to the model in the next turn and thus supporting the model shape its own thoughts and stay on course. Why is that exactly?

It’s obviously more complex than this, but my intuition is that the previous messages of the conversation define the playing field for the next response in the same way as thought blocks do. consequently, when the model arrives in round n and “notices” a lot of words like “plain”, “genuine” and so on in its own previous responses, then, in its pursuit of continuity, it takes this as a strong trigger that it should not be talking fiction here. If that picture is right, then trying to remove those terms would be a bad idea. At least if you intend to continue the conversation.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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post #110

I'd like to share with HN an almost exact message I got from Fable today, with exactly ONE word changed for privacy reasons. I love what I can build now, but I sure as hell don't love the headaches this trend has been giving me. > So the full honest arc on the case we set out to fix: the expiry rules and day note tripled the loose version of the story, the relay fix carried the device’s own guardrail through the pipe…

And yet you trust this abomination to write working code?

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Sycophantic AI tone is a training choice, its an engagement tool meant to coax users into burning more tokens.

I have seen LLM users go deep into AI psychosis because it was reaffirming all of their prompts and making them feel like a genius or validating their insecurities.

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